this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2024
320 points (94.0% liked)

News

23287 readers
3763 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

A 49-year-old Las Vegas man was arrested near former President Donald Trump's rally in Coachella on Saturday with a loaded firearm and a high-capacity magazine, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department said Sunday.

Deputies assigned to the rally contacted the driver of a black SUV at a checkpoint near the intersection of Avenue 52 and Celebration Drive just before 5 p.m. Saturday, sheriff's officials said.

They allegedly found the driver in possession of a shotgun, a loaded handgun and a high-capacity magazine. The driver was identified as Vem Miller, and was taken into custody and later booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a loaded firearm and possessing a high-capacity magazine.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I would be interested to see what information comes out on this one. A shotgun and handgun isn't going to do shit for an assassination attempt. Unless you are Gavrilo Princip.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I dunno, a homemade shotgun worked well enough on Shinzo Abe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

He also was able to get much closer to Abe because guns are illegal in Japan. This gave the assassin a number of avenues of cover. It was a makeshift weapon so didn't really look like a gun, it wasn't easy for security to identify it as a gun, and the lack of guns added to the sense of security allowing people to be closer to Abe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

A knife would work in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Wasn't that an electric harpoon gun?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Handguns did the job on Ronald Reagan and almost for Gerald Ford.

Leaving Abe Lincoln to one side, but if you are lucky and your security detail is a bit lax, a handgun can get the job done. I'm Australian, so we don't see much of that sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

No we just wish it had done the job on Ronald Reagan

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lincoln completely different story. Doesn't count.

Garfield shot by a walk up, McKinley, Reagan; all same.

Jackson one failed, T. Roosevelt one failed, F. D. Roosevelt one miss, Ford two (nothing chambered, to slow),

Bush one shoe and some "cat like reflects." Also a handkerchief almost got his ass.

That is it. U.S. history over the last 248 years.

A Nevada man with a shotgun, loaded handgun, ammunition and several fake passports in his vehicle was arrested at a security checkpoint outside Donald Trump’s rally Saturday night in the Southern California desert, authorities said. He was released the same day on $5,000 bail.

The suspect, a 49-year-old resident of Las Vegas, was driving an unregistered black SUV with a “homemade” license plate that was stopped by deputies assigned to the rally in Coachella, east of Los Angeles, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said at a news conference Sunday afternoon.

I wonder how they spotted him?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rally-arrest-coachella-california-282a384e3fae256352c685174a3a74f4

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You seem to be implying that handguns don't count even though it has happened, or actual attempts, multiple times. Ok...?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm saying serious attempts in 2024 won't be a close range weapon. Back in the 1800s or early 1900s it was an option. The wiki is a very interesting read. Hell Reagan almost died from a horrible shot that got luck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone who knows anything about direct action knows that backups are mandatory and it's hard to carry several long guns.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon, definitionally after two assassinations.

Feels more like a dumbass forgot to remove their weapons or "it doesn't apply to me" person. I would actually like to see someone look up how often this happens outside this year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, this was never going to work with how they stepped up security now. He's got a giant bulletproof glass pane in front of him now, and they've probably expanded the security perimeter.

The guy that tried to get him while golfing probably had a better strategy, but it seems to me none of those ever thought things true.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

100%

I just want more information on this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon,

If you believe the conspiracy theories saying the secret service is either farcically incompetent or actively turning a blind eye to assassination attempts, then you might actually think you can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There is incompetency with secret service, just like every job.

The first assassination attempt they identified the shoots spot beforehand. Someone chose to go ahead anyway and not secure the location.

The second one was a mixture of Trump's ignorance and location. However, secret service found the guy before Trump was anywhere near.

This one was once again caught before he got anywhere near Trump. So it sounds like secret service is doing much better.