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We'll have a long memory as things get worse for working class Americans, minorities and women
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this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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you're a fool or a Russian propagandist.
this election will make waves of change across the world.
to anyone taking this fool seriously I'll ask you this, where was your conscience when the Uighur people were enslaved.
where was your conscience when Iran was killing woman for standing up for their rights?
where was your conscience when Russia was killing gay men just for being gay?
where was your conscience when North Korea was starving and killing its people?
why didn't America intervene then? why didn't you vote your conscience then?
by listening to propaganda like above, you're not voting your conscience, you're voting for whatever the propagandists tell you to vote for.
vote to save democracy because we've only got the one, and there won't be a second chance.
Theres a big difference between aiding a genocide vs not showing up to stop one. Are you pretending we are merely being neutral in this Israeli genocide? Thats absurd at best and dishonest at worst.
Progressives are asking for the weapons shipments to stop, and Harris gets the votes to win.
ok, I suppose you don't support the Uighur genocides by not purchasing any goods in the world market? I mean, if you DO then that would just make you a hypocrite, right?
genocide is genocide. the Uighur genocide has been thoroughly documented and has been going on for about...15 years now? they only started forcing them into internment camps since 2017 though. which reminds me.
where was the outrage when Trump was running in 2016? where was the outrage while he was in office? where was the outrage when Trump continued to do nothing to help those poor Uighur slaves?
did you know that in China you can literally buy organs from Uighur slaves against their will? they're trafficked as sex slaves, they're beaten, they're forced to work to their death, they are murdered just for existing.
so where has all the outrage been for 7 years? oh wait....I get it, it's too inconvenient because it doesn't progress the story you want to push.
so I'll ask more bluntly this time, why is it ok for China to have a genocide and not Israel? is it because they aren't the right Muslims? or is it because it doesn't fit the narrative you're pushing?
Progressives aren't asking the Dems to commit to even trying to stop the genocide. Progressives are asking Dems to stop actively facilitating and arguably participating in it.
you're just moving the goal posts again.
tell me why it's ok for China to genocide the Uighur muslims and it's not ok for Israel to genocide Hamas muslims?
where is the outrage for allowing e-retailers like Temu, Wish, or Shein to operate within the US? where is the outrage for these companies using forced Uighur slave labor to manufacture their products?
what about the slave labor that places like Apple use to manufacture their products?
all you have to do is answer the question.
Why do Hamas Muslims matter more than Uighur Muslims right now?
I'm not moving any goalposts. Your entire argument assumes that the US is providing military aid to China, knowing that said aid is used to commit genocide. They aren't.
Your use of the term "Hamas Muslims," however, is very telling.
what a weak scarecrow. just because Hamas is the brotherhood doesn't mean you can't identify them as Muslim. that's exactly why Israel is attacking them in the first place, right? that makes it relevant to the question that you refuse to answer.
The US aids the Chinese genocide of Uighur Muslims by allowing their economic participation in western markets with products and services manufactured and supported by Uighur slave labor.
how is that any different than supporting Israeli attacks on Hamas Muslims?
but don't worry, I'll ask again.
I'll take a guess to the answer since nobody has the nerve to admit it.
Uighur Muslim persecution is convenient to popularist notion of high yield and cheap products. the labor they provide supports Chinese interests and provides highly scalable resources for their war machine. the same machine that directly benefits Russia and the ongoing struggle for power that Putin and Xi are attempting to destroy the world over.
By implying Americans should reject democrats and republicans based on their inaction on the atrocities committed by Israel it only serves to support the goals set forward by the Russian and Chinese dictatorships. not to influence the 2024 election, but to sow the seeds of confusion and inspire mistrust in the America system of government.
you said it yourself.
"progressives" don't want anyone to participate in a system they deem not acceptable enough. -- moving the goal posts
"progressives" want Americans to pivot to any third party candidate in protest against the American government. -- manufacturing chaos
"progressives" want Americans to believe that a system they alone can't change is corrupted and should be dismantled. -- sowing the seeds of mistrust
if you're not a tool that's being used to support the Russian and Chinese agenda, you're a fool drinking the koolaid.
My God, you are just completely insufferable. Serves me right for engaging with you.
Hamas is not the same as Palestine. Israel is committing genocide on Palestinians. There is a difference between America allowing Chinese goods and industry in America and America directly providing military aid that Israel is using to commit genocide on Palestinians. And your conflating Palestinians and Hamas is ridiculously ignorant at best, and intentional at worst.
so you admit that the progressive agenda is full support of the Chinese and Russian military complex.
you flat out refuse to acknowledge the Uighur genocides because it doesn't fit your narrative.
I admit I was a fool for trying to communicate with someone so willing to put words in other's mouths. I should know better.
Tell you what, you let me know when the US ships weapons to China that help them commit the genocide, gives China gobs of "aid money," and repeatedly provides cover for China at the UN. Because until then, the US won't be treating China the way it's treating Israel. Yes, both are bad. One shows far more complicity than the other.
Are you trolling?