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Was trying to read a news story and... What fresh shitfuckery is this? Why do I now have to pay money to a company just for the privilege of not being spied upon and not getting your cookies that I don't want or need? How is this even legal?

RE: "Why are you even reading that shitrag?" -- I clicked on a link someone posted in another sublemmit, didn't realise it was the Sun till after. I do not read the Sun on the regular, chill. My point stands regardless that this is extremely shitty and should probably not be allowed.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I'm pretty sure this is illegal under GDPR. They're just seeing how long they can get away with it for, before they have to apologise and get no punishment.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm seeing this kind of thing on an ever increasing number of sites in Germany. It's especially galling on sites I already pay a subscription fee for! Isn't that enough? Now I'm supposed to pay another monthly subscription to avoid tracking cookies?

I've already cancelled one news website due to this, letting them know why (they're small enough that I know they read it, since it was part of a conversation). Fat lot of good it'll do, but ....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't call what they're asking for a subscription – it's ransom.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. There must be no downside to clicking no. Consent must be freely given.

Although I'd argue almost nobody complies with the spirit of the law. Popping up a consent form every time you visit unless you accidentally click accept and then never asking you again doesn't feel like consent was truly given.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, "Why can't websites just remember that I said no to cookies?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Cookies required for the website to work (like that one) are totally fine and, in fact, they don't even have to ask you about them - if they're not used for tracking. So no, asking each time is definitely avoidable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately, at least in Germany it's legal. There was a special ruling recently.

(Link in German)

https://www.datenschutzkonferenz-online.de/media/pm/DSK_Beschluss_Bewertung_von_Pur-Abo-Modellen_auf_Websites.pdf

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This appears to be a US specific website, where they could get away with the geoblocking technique to bypass gdpr

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's The Sun. A British newspaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It for sure is The Sun, but if you look closely at the logo, you will see it actually says "The U.S. Sun". So it's an American offshoot of the British newspaper and the domain OP was accessing is likely hosted in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'm in the UK, the British version does this as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sadly it is not, as you need to pay to access content by money or pay by viewing ads.

Facebook uses the same model.

If you don't want the "premium content" by paying with way 1 or way 2, you can't use the site.

This will end up being a final nail in the coffin for these sites, I wish.