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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Every conflict is complicated. Just because you want it to be cops and robbers doesn’t make it so.

Nazi genocide was complicated. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t clear who needed to be stopped but it’s insulting to our intelligence to try to paper over these complexities because people think we can’t act to stop war crimes if we acknowledged that they occurred on both sides.

Edit: the above comment was edited considerably to be more nuanced than the one I originally replied to. But I want to point out that who started it is only one of many relevant facts here. Particularly because the original zionists are all dead at this point.

Palestinians have a right to fight for liberation but not to kill random civilians. Hamas in particular is an authoritarian organization of religious fanatics that oppress Palestinians and endorse murdering civilians. They are not a useful part of the struggle for liberation and have made things much much worse through their actions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK it is clear who is at fault. Thanks for the word pedantry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

More than one person or group can be at fault. And they can be at fault for different aspects of the overall situation and to different degrees. You are oversimplifying and then attacking people for refusing to uncritically accept your oversimplified narrative. It’s actually extremely counterproductive to the cause of Palestinian liberation.