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“BD” refers to Franco-Belgian comics, but let's open things up to include ALL Euro comics and GN's. Euro-style work from around the world is also welcome!

* BD = "Bandes dessinées"
* BDT = Bedetheque
* GN = graphic novel
* LBK = Lambiek
* LC = "Ligne claire"

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Michel Kichka is a cartoonist borne in Belgium with Jewish roots, who became intrigued with Israel, and decided to do a permanent move, marrying and raising a family there with his French wife.

* "Aliyah" is a somewhat complicated word as I grasp it, but from what I understand at the basic level, refers to going back to one's roots / homeland.

-----> https://imgur.com/a/kjMohrs <-----

The way the sequence above concluded really shocked me, and even brought a tear to my eye, honestly. Me, I'm not remotely used to dealing with people like that, and yet I guess that's how it works in certain parts of the world? (gadzooks, mistress goose)

In terms of the comic itself, I found this sequence rather current & relevant to the USA, and a pretty excellent, interesting survey of the artist's life and Israeli culture. At the same time, it established little to no emotional connection with the characters, which is usually how we do these things, but... oh well?

https://www.bedetheque.com/auteur-23699-BD-Kichka-Michel.html


EDIT: As we've clarified multiple times here, this story snippet has to do with neighborhood relations in an Israeli city. It is by no means addressing anything on a national basis, including Israeli relations with other peoples or nations. Attempts to highjack the thread in that direction directly breaks our #1 rule here (practice netiquette) and will be dealt with accordingly. Thank you for your cooperation.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if all of what you're saying is true (it's not), the clock of time is not going back. The founding of the United States is built on the spilled blood of native Americans. What are kids born in the US today supposed to do? This type of clinging to the past to justify any contemporary analysis is the reason things aren't moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which parts do you think are untrue?

And the kids born to settler priviledge are supposed to give the land back. Then either integrate or fuck off. Like imagine you inherit a plantation and the wealth it was built on was built by slaves, you should not have a right to that wealth. Same with german companies that got expropriated by the nazis. Give them back or nationalise them, there shouldn't be private gain from genocidal actions.

Also do you not realise that the genocide of native americans is ongoing? The landgrabbing and keeping them in mass poverty and poor access to education, healthcare etc is still very much a reality today.

readsettlers.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nothing you said necessarily contradicts what I wrote. These are lofty ideas. We should all be striving for ultimate justice. Native Americans should have their lands returned; descendants of slaves should have economic reparations; and so forth.

But how far do we turn back the clock and what is the net benefit? At some point you have to pick a time stamp and freeze history. Otherwise we could sit here endlessly picking arbitrary points to restore the time machine.

But maybe instead of focusing so much on the what we should be focusing on the how. Ultimately everyone wants some measure of justice. Talk to Palestinians or Jews: each will have a different interpretation or vision of justice means to them. But how do we get there?

kids born to settler privilege are supposed to give the land back.

Ok. How are you going to accomplish that exactly? What does this sentiment or statement accomplish in terms of ending the current suffering that is happening? I'm not sure I understand what these declarations are intended to convey or who the audience is?