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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such,

as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

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We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah it seems like, this is some entirely naive view of the world, people tend to forget that they are free to go into the woods and forage food etc, but then they wouldn't have their phones and pcs to post absolute nonsense on the internet.

Like what does op think people did before "salary" they worked from dawn till dusk on a patch of land trying not to die, before that they foraged and hunted, surviving day to day

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we are not medieval peasants anymore though.

hunger is something that has no good reason to exist anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree, but that does require that those who can work, do. And also a system that doesn't center around being greedy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

thats a great goal and i think thats what most lefties here are striving for.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This "curious" always make me think the other person is dumb... Thanks Lemmy

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your reply or the original meme doesn't propose how to improve society, it's just stupid ass circlejerking.

Salary can be part of a much better society too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, perhaps you prefer the full comic?

You didn't propose how to improve society to address the original complaint either. You were circlejerking with the other guy about how OP should shut up and people aren't allowed to voice such complaints because otherwise they're just edgy 14 year olds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's not a complaint, it's whinging, that's different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Says the guy whinging about a meme.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

says the guy whining about a guy whinging about a meme

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Wow, that's deep, man. There should be a forum where we can post stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What woods are available for foraging that wouldn't get you arrested for vagrancy? Seems everything is locked down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Actually Hunter Gatherer Tribes spent just around 4 hours a day hunting and gathering. Including food preparation and consumption they spent 40 hours a week wich is less than modern humans (if you count work + cooking)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_affluent_society

Of course hunger, famines, illness, suffering and death were frequent occurrences (so I wouldn't want to switch places), but for most of human history we had enough time and recourse for random shit like socializing, drawing, singing, dancing, sacrifices, worshipping gods and so on.