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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Source for the quote? I tried searching for it but couldn’t really find anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I am a bit skeptical this actually happened. The infographic is from a known Russian interests troll and just gives a “trust me bro” source.

I could be proven wrong though.

If I was teaching a media literacy class I would include this infographic as a good example of something that looks like it might have a source but actually does not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I googled the quote in the article (“What can we say to make it seem like Israel is not committing war crimes?”), which it doesn’t even attribute to Rutte, and I just found this article again.

Now don’t get me wrong, I fully believe that Rutte knows that Israel is committing war crimes and that he’s fully on their side regardless, but this article doesn’t prove the legitimacy of this quote at all. What’s more, if what the article states is 100% true, it at least demonstrates that attributing the quote to Rutte himself is misleading, since it is supposed to come from someone in his cabinet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Google-Fu is an art. It’s in an anonymous letter a group of civil servants from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs wrote to the Court of Appeal in The Hague:

“A request from the Ministry of General Affairs to the Legal Affairs Directorate at Foreign Affairs reads as follows,” NRC quoted from the officials’ letter: “What can we say so that it appears that Israel is not committing war crimes?” nltimes.nl

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah okay cool, no need to be condescending when I already told you I found the damn NRC article. I, however, can’t access it and would like to read it in Dutch, or at the very least in a source a bit more trustworthy than Jacobin or not as no-name as nltimes.nl.

Also, like I said, this post frames it as if it’s a quote from Rutte. Your sources say it’s not. This shit is deliberately misleading.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, it was supposed to be funny. Here is an archived link to the article. I agree, it is misleading. But the letter to the Hague contains a paraphrased statement that conveys the sentiment in the leaked memo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

All good.

And yeah, it’s clear that Rutte’s cabinet is aware that Israel is bad but doesn’t want to acknowledge it, but this post is misinformation.

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