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"Naval blockade" here meaning "attacking random civilian ships in international waters because they MIGHT be Jews"
Yes, I am sure this is how a naval blockade against a particular country works, you just pick a handful of civilian ships at random to shoot at and claim they were secretly part of your enemies. War crimes are okay when it's Your Side (and apparently, your side is the Islamofascists, very curious)
EDIT: Of course, they're a Tiananmen Square denier too. How predictable.
Doing more to stop a genocide than the western powers sending weapons.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240716-israel-says-eilat-port-bankrupt-after-months-houthi-naval-blockade/
How many war crimes on balance?
Being against Israel is not the one and only measure for whether a group is good or not
Yes, the genociders like [checks notes] Greece, China, and India.
Maybe if you attack enough civilians, you'll accidentally hit some Israelis. Keep going!
So how many innocent blockade runners have died vs innocent civilians been genocided?
I guess "Intentionally targeting civilians and committing war crimes is bad" sounds like radical shitlib stuff to you, as long as the people you claim to oppose (but are targeting and killing people entirely unrelated to them) are committing more war crimes.
Real leftists understand that ending a genocide will require more than asking nicely and sending more weapons. Must sound completely unhinged to the libs.
What chain of events do "real leftists" see coming out of terrorists attacking civilian freighters?
Reality based observers will note that the international community is far more likely to retaliate against Yemen or put more anti missile ships in the area, leading to a significant risk of escalation..m
IDK MAYBE STOP SENDING MORE WEAPONS TO THE GENOCIDERS PERHAPS? ANYONE GOING TO TRY THAT?
How does attacking civilian freighters encourage any government to do that?
I'm trying to understand how you think this helps the Palestinean cause in any way.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240716-israel-says-eilat-port-bankrupt-after-months-houthi-naval-blockade/
Yes, Israel will surely change national policy that is costing them billions because a minor port is temporarily closed...
Is this actually the chain of events for which you are hoping? Or is there another step I'm not seeing? Because I hope you have something better than "Israel will have a harder time supplying potash! First the potash, then peace!"
Oh, okay, so if the Houthis kill MORE Filipino civilians, that'll stop the genocide?
Insane. Tankies really will support anything that's vaguely damaging to the West. Absolute brainrot.
Keep sending weapons and protectors for the genociders. That's a very effective strategy.
Would love that. I support the removal of all aid from Israel. I'm at the point where I don't even think that the US should interfere in case of war with Israel. The moral issue of the genocide aside, there's the longer term strategic issue that they've made their bed with these insane provocations of their neighbors; backing them now is encouraging that behavior, and gods only know where it will go. Somewhere worse, is the only real guarantee.
Fuck man, what's going on in the world isn't the only thing you can support. You CAN support ALTERNATIVE courses of actions.
I am a dialectal materialist, not an idealist.
Based on your replies in this thread, that's not how I would describe you.
If you've ever played fallout New Vegas, he reminds me a lot of Caesar. preaches about helgen dialectics but doesn't understand them.
This reminds me of that classic moment in A Fish Called Wanda:
"I've known sheep that could outwit you! I've worn dresses with a higher IQs but you think you're an intellectual, don't you you ape!?!"
"Apes don't read philosophy." (Said with a smirk.)
"Yes they do, they just don't understand it!"
"ASSHOOOOOOOOOLE!"
I think this every time I'm in the wrong traffic-wise!
"By killing Fillipino civilian sailors heading to Saudi Arabia, this will finally stop the genocide of Palestinians by Israel!"
Have fun with your war crimes.
'on balance'?
What, is this some kind of fucking game to you? "They committed war crimes, so we can commit so war crimes too"? Jesus fucking Christ. How utterly morally bankrupt.
So one vs 42,000 and counting. Quite logical.
"Whoever commits fewer war crimes is moral and whatever war crimes they did were good and justified." Quite logical.
Somebody killing people doesn’t give you a right to kill random unrelated people, just because you are killing fewer people
Murdering civilians intentionally is inexcusable regardless of how many.
By your logic literally every genocide the US supported and engaged in would have been completely excused had they just struck the right KD ratio by throwing their death row inmates at the enemy first.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-monitor/
Your source is shit and so are theirs.
Bending over backwards to support theocrats is not revolutionary praxis, it's licking the boot that belongs to whoever you like more.