I tried to selfhost Nextcloud at work (feddit.it)

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And it failed spectacularly.

We only needed a simple form, but we wanted to be fancy, so we used "nextcloud forms".

The docker image automatically updated the install to nextcloud 30, but the forms app requires nextcloud 29 or lower. No warning whatsoever. It's an official app, couldn't they wait that it was ready for NC 30 before launching it? The newsletter boasts "NC hub 9 is the best thing after sliced bread" yet i don't see any difference both in visual or performance compared to NC hub 2

Conclusion: we made our business to rely on nextcloud forms as a signup form, but the only reason we were using it was disabled who knows how many weeks ago.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Who tests the useless survey? Everyone with regression tests. Like dude, everything you talk about has been written "in blood" from years of hosting production systems. If the useless survey is needed, then write a test for it, or a testcase to manually try it. Don't just upgrade, see that the app is up and push to prod, that's not testing, that's asking for trouble.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

I'm not arguing that my procedure is right (it is not), I'm arguing that nextcloud rushed the release in an incredibly unprofessional way.

When it's the last time that Canonical, in the hurry to release Ubuntu xx.yy broke snapd without?

When it's the last time that Apple, in the hurry to release iOS xx, made it totally incompatible with iMovie and had no timeline on when it would be fixed?

When it's the last time that Microsoft pushed a Windows update that disabled Microsoft office and left it unfixed for months?

Nextcloud decided to take care of the forms app. They decided to promote it as a selling point. They decided when to release the update. They decided to still push the update even if their own form app didn't get any new release in 4 months and isn't compatible.

They aren't contractually obligated to release a new, indistinguishable version (except some new bits that make it incompatible) every quarter.

Not ready? Delay one week. Still not ready? Delay an additional week. It came out that it needs a complete rewrite and it will take months? Write a note in the blog saying that feature is no more a selling point but now it is deprecated/unmaintained/unsupported and it will be automatically disabled without confirmation.

As someone said, a good app is only late until it ships, a bad app is bad until it's patched. Why being perpetually bad with updates that nobody is asking?

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