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Tesla is reportedly planning a reveal of its self-driving robotaxi on the Warner Bros. lot amid widespread anger in the industry over the brand’s controversial CEO, Elon Musk, resulting in a rejection of its cars.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Turned into? 10 years ago it was obvious if you had open ears.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The "pedo guy" was the mask off moment. Unless you were in the industry and dealt with him first hand, it was hearsay and rumor and at the time, many of us wanted to see a revitalized space program and electric cars. We kinda just went along with his Hank Scorpio impression, thinking it was an act.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hank Scorpio would be much preferred.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Scorpio actually has compassion. He just also recognized that a few workers burning alive was steps towards innovation!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really all you had to do was ever hear anything from him. He was clear about who he was.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't track down and listen to CEOs. I don't know most of them. The pedo sub thing was generally the first negative I heard about him also, just from general impressions that came off if you didn't search for him specifically. I also heard about the Type E and Type 3 thing, and how he wanted to have the cars spell out SEX. I thought it was a bit immature, but didn't read much further into it back then how much of a manchild he was.

If you're not dialed into specific types of content, you just didn't hear it. It's not simply opening your ears as you said. It would involve having enough interest in looking up a CEO of a company, and many of us don't do that. I don't know who runs Kroger, though I have some negative opinions due to the price fixing. I don't know who is the CEO of Aldi, of Nissan, of AMD, of cuisine Art, etc. I use products from or purchase from the previous companies either daily or weekly, but knowing the CEO generally doesn't affect me.

What he's done since then does now affect much more, but back then it wasn't that important for most to know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This touches on something I’ve been considering for a while. Any time I spend money on a large company’s product, it’s practically inevitable that I’m putting money into the hands of shitty people, whether they be the CEO, other executives, shareholders, etc. And if I want to have a vaguely normal life, and have some time to enjoy it rather than researching corporate drones all day, that’s something I have to accept and live with.

But sometimes a person or situation is so ridiculous that it just becomes unavoidable. In years past I may have been able to overlook the obnoxious musk connection if I liked a certain Tesla and wanted to buy one. I’d tell myself it’s some cool engineering from a young American auto maker or whatever. But in recent years when the brand is synonymous with one person, and that one person isn’t just your run of the mill rich conservative but is actively and publicly using their position to do or promote evil shit, I’m not sure I would wear a t-shirt with that brand much less drive a car with it.

Fortunately I’m not an early adopter of a lot of tech (EVs included) even though I follow the news on it. So now I have lots of options, and I’ll have even more in a few years when I want to actually buy something!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Agreed. I once tried to look up nearby supermarkets that didn't donate to antilgbt stuff (or just not GOP) and it wasn't feasible to avoid it with what was in range back then, especially if I wanted any quality. It felt like I had no choice, so accept and live with it is also what I did. I still tried to avoid egregious examples, of course. Tesla now counts, not just because of his personality, but also because of some of the cost cutting practices and regulation skirting he has done.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It took me longer to realize sadly. Was really into the nerdy side of him until he landed the first few falcons. Then I couldn't ignore the bullshit anymore. Sad to say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It was when he called the rescue diver a paedophile that moment sticks out in my mind. But I have a feeling my opinion of him was changing before that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just glad more and more people are waking up to his bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah no judgement the fact is ya figured it out, better than a lot of folks can currently claim. I figured out he was a shithead or atleast a smooth brain thanks to Thunderf00ts debunking series, which while I still enjoy his content and he has since broken with the Anti-SJW types I was watching him in the gamergate era.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Believe it or not some people may not have been investing significant amounts of time into learning about Elon Musk’s personality in 2014

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Did Musk have a better damage control person employed previously?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

Hence saying you just needed open ears to know. He was broadcasting who he was back then. It was no secret.