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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, he is still free to visit the top two countries by GDP. Millions of people spend their entire lives in one or the other. I think he'll manage.

But yes, to anyone asking "What are we going to do about this?", the answer is "We are going to wait until Netanyahu (or Gallant) visits a country under ICC jurisdiction".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Icc doesn't really hold court often if ever whst they do do is remove people from public participation and lucrative trade deals. Those matter to countries.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

An indictment against Netanyahu doesn't really affect Israel's trade deals. Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of the Economy, etc are free to go where they need to conclude any deals.

And most of Netanyahu's foreign trips before indictment were to the US and Russia, which he is still free to visit. He also frequently visits Jordan, which is an ICC member but in the past has refused to arrest visitors with ICC warrants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It already has, turkey stopped trade.

Yes that's why I specifically didn't say all icc member states....

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Turkey's embargo is not related to the ICC, in fact it happened before the ICC acted against Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same week turkey joined the icc petition turkey stopped export. That was May 2ndish, icc announced May 20th.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Turkey didn't petition the ICC, you're thinking of the ICJ.

The ICJ is not a criminal court. It cannot arrest or prosecute individuals. It can issue legal opinions regarding disputes between states, but it cannot enforce its opinions. For example, in 2014 it ruled that Japan could not hunt whales in Antarctica yet Japan is still hunting whales there today.

Regardless, the ICJ has not yet issued a final opinion regarding Israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They joined the icc petition and participate in it, I didn't say they started it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/politics/turkish-lawyers-submit-evidence-to-icc-on-israels-war-crimes/news/amp

They are also on the icj petition, yes.

Yet another thing I didn't say and doesn't actually matter, neat.

Also they just released decision.

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2024/09/19/end-israel-occupation-palestine-un-vote/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yet another thing I didn't say

You said May 2. That article is from November.

In May, the Turkish government petitioned the ICJ to join South Africa as co-plaintiffs. Not the ICC.

In November, Turkish lawyers (not Turkey itself) provided evidence (not petitioned the court) to the ICC. The Turkish government cannot petition to join ICC prosecutors, prosecutors work alone.

they just released decision.

That's a different ICJ decision against Israel, initiated by the UN in 2022. That decision does not address the invasion of Gaza, because it hadn't happened yet.

The Gaza genocide case before the ICJ right now is separate, this is the one that that Turkey petitioned to join in May, and this case still has no final decision.