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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Exactly my thoughts. The project is going to remain open source, but not free. I hate when people fail to recognize the difference between free software and open source software.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

According to the definition from the Open Source Initiative, "open source" also requires free redistribution. See the first point (emphasis mine).

  1. Free Redistribution

The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.

It also requires freedom to distribute modifications:

  1. Derived Works

The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.

CC-BY-NC-ND is not "open source" (both due to the NC and the ND), it's more of a "source available" type of license (when applied to source code). The difference between "free software" and "open source" is more ideological than anything else, they both define the same freedoms, just with different ideological objectives / goals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (14 children)

And there is nothing wrong with folks choosing such licences—especially if trying to get paid or not exploited.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I guess it's better than not providing any source code. What's wrong is calling it "open source" when it isn't.

VVVVVV and Anodyne are some examples of "source available" games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not what I am arguing, but we do have two issues: 1) naming/branding for these types of licenses 2) FOSS banshees acting like these licenses aren’t acceptable & the whole idea is binary good or evil

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As long as we don't call them free, libre, or open source I don't care. We shouldn't make the terminology any more confusing for those.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s limited vocab to choose from & source available isn’t an appealing one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, it definitely is more appealing from a marketing perspective.

I do understand why some projects might wanna use the term, it's to their advantage to be associated with "open source" even if the source code itself has a proprietary license.

The problem is that then it makes it harder / more confusing to check for actually openly licensed code, since then it's not clear what term to use. Already "free software" can be confused with "free as in free beer".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It doesn't really roll off the tongue, I get it, but it's the best and most widely used term for software whose source is available to view but not modify and/or redistribute.

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