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it's unfortunate that they are going down this route. stratagems are one of the main appeals of the game, missing out on primary, secondary, and throwable weapons due to not having a warbond isn't nearly as disappointing IMO.
something i'd like to emphasise for people who think this is no big deal, because you can earn credits by playing: not everyone has the game amount of time to play as you might. those players don't have a choice of grind for it or pay for it, for them it's pay for it or lack the stratagem.
Sounds to me like it will cost the same as any other warbond, 1000SC? Sooooo....it's click bait?
As someone who is really stingy on spending my SC until something interesting comes along it's fine. I saved enough do that when the last update came along I got the Fireproof Underwear because I just happen to use the flamethrower load out a lot, and I still have 1000+SC
It's fair for them to offer new stuff this way, because people will spend money or they won't, and either way it's not too daunting of a cost.
the difference is that, stratagems have been (until this point) been unlocked with requisition slips, not with the super credits. additionally, it might not be a daunting cost to you, but it might for others, always something to keep in mind!
Yeah I get that, * do understand the struggle, but is it something you can't achieve?
I mean, do you play the game to have fun or to get shiny objects?
I personally (again, my perspective and with loving thought of you in mind as well), haven't unlocked all the stagems because I enjoy the lower levels with randos and only venture upwards with a good squad that's gone through a couple missions already. There are those who take the game way to serious, and those who love to play dolly and dress up. Everyone is different and everyone enjoys the game for what it is: a broken, frustrating, amazing, repetitive, surprisingly entertaining time waster.
Keep that also in mind.
As the game is, it's not a necessary addition by any means. So no, it isn't a big deal.
Though I don't know the price of it, I know it doesn't take too long to play your way to enough "Super Credits" to pay for the Warbonds. I can't imagine it's so much more expensive than that.
Also, people may not like to hear it, but only they have a responsability in what hobbies they themselves choose. If you don't have the time to play a grindy live-service game, then don't buy it. Yes, that choice lies with you and you alone.
Neither the Developers or anyone else, has any responsability as to how you choose to spend you time.
There's a million cool hobbies out there, find one that fits your schedule.
Edit: The entire article reads as if it was written by someone that hasn't played the game. They use the words "Warbond" and "Stratagem" interchangeably. And write as if the Warbonds didn't cost 'Super Credits' before. You've never been able to pay for a warbond with anything else.
it's a major shift in how warbonds work, for that reason alone it's a big deal. as far as responsibility goes, i'd invite you to find empathy for those who were suddenly impacted by this change. additionally i believe we should be advocates to make more experiences accessible to all people, regardless of financial constraints, time constraints, or other circumstances.
As I said, the article is very poorly written. I'm unsure if they mean that there's a Strat' coming that'll cost "SC" or if they are referring to the Warbond. Because Warbonds have always cost 1000SC. Zero change.
And no, it's only your responsibility whether or not you engage with a specific game. There's tons of great games out there, not every single one has to cater to your specific needs.
Welp, as it turns out, it was just another Warbond. Not a Stratagem that cost Super Credits.
So same old, same old...
im not sure if you looked inside the warbond, but it does contain a stratagem
No, it doesn't. It contains a Support Weapon and it's just the flamethrower, but green.
You're not missing out on anything other than the gas grenades and skins.
And the grenades can't open loot containers or close bug holes/fabricators. They are tiny versions of the Gas Strike orbital, but without the explotion.
ah, i think i understand your confusion
support weapons are a type of stratagem (you can see other support weapon stratagems here ) unlike normal weapons, such as primary, secondary, or throwable weapons, support weapons are stratagems that are selected before each mission alongside three other stratagems. you can then call them down using their respective stratagem code, and they will arrive in a manner similar to a resupply or like the machine gun support stratagem in the tutorial.