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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (25 children)

Pretty sure the only sentient being that would need to be worried around Vaush would be a little girl he wants to take on a stable tour.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Is this an inside joke or is he a creep?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (17 children)

He has made jokes about horse cocks before. He also accidentally opened a folder containing loli and horse cocks on stream once .

There's also an old out of context clip of him floating around "justifying cp because we abuse kids in labor camps that we get our rare earth metals, t-shirts, shoes n stuff like that from".

That is NOT what he meant to say. If u see it in full context, he was displaying the contradictions of neo liberalism, where working conditions even for children are absolutely shit. We hate child porn (as we should), but we don't hate the horrendous working conditions that our corporations make kids from poor countries go through. We justify stuff like this by pointing at the low cost that results from this cheap labor. This is absolutely disgusting. He was trying to say this, but got clipped out of context.

Doesn't help that tankies absolutely hate him too (he's a libertarian socialist who is pro Ukraine and anti CCP). I'm not saying that the guy is clean. Maybe he is a pedo. Maybe he isn't. However, an accusation like that requires some sort of evidence. Without it, it's just ad hominem. The amount of hatred that starts flowing after u even mention the guy's name is unjustified imo. I agree with him on some issues, n I disagree with him on others. Then, I move on. People unfortunately don't do that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I remember stumbling on some videos of him as I was being radicalized, he was talking about trans issues and generally having interesting, or at least thought-provoking things to say. I'm sure I learned stuff (and he was a brief part of my radicalization whether I want it or not), but not too long after, I started getting some pretty odd vibes. Couldn't quite place what bothered me then because I just wasn't educated on a lot of the western leftism shortcomings and knew way too little of colonial and imperial history and such, but some interventions were still eyebrow raising.

When he started (in my exposure to his content, no clue about how his positions evolved) really drilling into his disdain for religion, defense of "anti-white racism", and spending way too long hating on other leftists I fully dropped out. I honestly can't remember a single content creator where my falling out was so brutal especially without being exposed to any outside critique. I'm sure he's still got some good points to make on some subjects, but there are voices that do it better and without all the weird reactionary takes.

I would generally recommend people to steer clear from those "debate bro" types. Most of us probably had a period of falling into the trap of viewing good rhetoric, aesthetic and entertainment value, as something more than it actually is, hell most of us still struggle with that today. There's nothing wrong with entertainment in the sphere of "political" media, but you should stay critical of people that spend too long just beating on anyone to the left of them. Even the "tankies" I follow have very civilized and respectful conversations with anarchists, trostkyists or socdems because they realize that very few of them have nefarious intentions and it always makes for something way more interesting than namecalling and gotchas.

I don't know about CP or horse cocks or whatever, honestly this seems like exactly the kind of braindead drama I try to steer away from, but personally that had nothing to do with what really rubbed me wrong about Vaush.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

He doesn't debate anymore. His position is that he's right about everything and if you disagree with him you are wrong. He doesn't want people to defend him and people should make their own opinions and not base it off of bread tube drama.

People have bad takes. Fighting with other leftists over details derails the entire movement.

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