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I wonder if this could help the IT workers from the public sector in Germany (E12, around 2500 €/month).
Anyone knows why it is like that?
Once, I heard about some speculative extra amounts made by guarantees in purchases. (Germans love guarantees, and any hardware purchase has a 50% surplus that can easily be split 1:1 between vendor and whoever was in charge. Yes, it would be illegal.. But nearly impossible to prove.)
I work in the Dutch public sector in IT, but with a few years of experience, I'm already beyond 4k/mo.
Sounds like the union isn't pulling it's weight...
You're net salary is beyond 4k? Are you hiring?
Why net all of the sudden?
Because the German salary is net and I thus assumed that the Dutch salary is as well.
What do you mean by ”sudden”?
Why net? In Sweden we only ever talk about gross, or as we save "before taxes", as it varies around the country.
Germans do too, no idea what OC was thinking about. It indeed doesn't make sense to talk about net as that changes with personal circumstances.
The group E12 that was mentioned starts at 4170€/ month gross. That's just under the German average wage (but above Median).
Same in the Netherlands, so I'd assume the Dutch salary is gross as well.
Well the German one isn't though, so this is like comparing apples to oranges
Yeah I think that's the point they were trying to make :)
I guess I was doing it too subtle :)
Because E12 refers to a very specific salary table. Hence the German salary must be net.
Why would you compare Net and gross salaries?
Those jobs exist, and are hiring. My company (US-based, Software, between 1k and 10k employees) is hiring architects in Germany (anywhere, 100% remote) for significantly over 4k net. Starting salary is over 100k, plus a nice RSU package (4 year vest with 1 year cliff). Other similar companies offer comparable compensation packages.
We do require a quite wide tech knowledge and good communication (customer interaction is part of the job, sometimes public speaking). It is not as relaxed as public sector, tho, most weeks are over 40h. Some traveling required, too.
If anyone is interested feel free to ping me (full disclosure: Iget a 5k USD referral bonus if you get hired and pass the Probezeit).
I am interested as well
Feel free to pm me if you have any questions :)
Something I forgot to add above: since the position requires speaking with customers, most countries require fluent local language (apparently with the exception of Scandinavia).
Ping. Contact me via PM please.
Got the knowledge I think, but not the spunk for the hours. You wouldn't hire 4 days a week would you :-) ?
I'm not the hiring manager, but as far as I know we don't hire part time :(
Thanks anyways 😉 !
It's gross, not net. The net amount is like 3200.