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Post version 2.5.0, is Duelist just a more OP Warrior? (lemy.lol)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I am watching RunningFromCake try out the beta 2.5.0 (see https://youtu.be/NCTfD8LTG3U and others). He is playing as duelist/monk. So he is able to try out all the duelist/monk buffs that are coming in version 2.5.0.

It looks to me that Duelist is now simply a better warrior. The duelist has weapon abilities, most of which are guaranteed to hit. That is much better than some pitiful shielding from the warrior's seal, particularly in early-game, when the extra accuracy can be quite useful (and the warrior's seal is at its weakest). That in itself makes duelist seemingly better than warrior. But the subclasses also seem better for the duelist. The berserker's abilities seem to be quite difficult to make use of, since rage does not build fast enough. The gladiator is a more viable class. But the monk's abilities seem to be better than the gladiator's abilities, considering that RunningFromCake can hit a 70 with a dragon kick. And the champion is obviously better than the berserker. So why would warrior ever be preferred over duelist?

RunningFromCake also criticizes the buff to the stone of intution at 2:04 at https://youtu.be/NCTfD8LTG3U. It gives more of an endorphin rush when guessing wrong the first time loses the stone. I agree with his reasoning here. Stone of intuition is very weak, but it does help with the addictive quality of the game.

Also, the transition from v2.4.2 to 2.5.0 resulted in his trinket showing as unidentified in his menu. You can see this at, for example, 20:43 in the video. Idk if this bug has been reported to the developer or not.

Anyways, do you agree with these observations? Why is duelist getting such a buff if it is just an OP warrior?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The bug has already been fixed, I saw it on the changelog. I play every single run I intend to win with the warrior (at least 30, give or take), and I've actually won little games with the duelist (like 2, if even that) . I just focus a lot more on armor, I like armor focused playstyle. And warrior's the best for that. I guess that's why I prefer warrior. Funny story: When Evan made it so warrior's talent of identifying weapons and armor got nerfed to only armor because of the duelist having the weapons focus and all of that, I got angry at the duelist because it seemed too weak and now even stealing the best talent from my favourite character (almost literally, because it took it away from the warrior), dunno, I don't use her.