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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know what, the American obsession with guns has never been anything to do with "protection", it's about being ammosexual.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most people who carry guns are doing it for self-defense, not civil defense.

The rules of an Active-shooter event are:

  1. Flee
  2. If you can't flee, hide.
  3. If you can't hide, fight back.

Carrying a concealed weapon doesn't change that. I have a little 380 pocket pistol I'll occasionally carry. It's low-capacity, low-power, and low-accuracy. No way am I volunteering to take on a psychopath with a long gun who isn't worried about collateral damage with my little pea shooter, and anyone Who expects me too just because I'm armed can kiss my ass.

I carry a pistol to protect me from muggers and car-jackers, not to protect the public.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Having the general public feeling that they need to carry a gun for self defense just sounds crazy to me.

Stabbings have risen here in the UK but generally it's either a rare occasion where some nutter is on the run or it's gang related. In general I would never feel the need to carry my own knife around for self defense. I don't know anyone who carries a knife around with them for self defense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Would anyone you know tell you if they carried a knife for self-defense, given that it's generally a crime to do so in the UK?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Close friends sure and yes you need to have a good reason as to why you're walking around with a knife in public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's similar in a lot of states in the US. You aren't legally allowed to carry a knife for self defense, or as a weapon, but recently in my state, the laws were changed so that you can carry any size blade without a reason. So if you say "I carry a knife for defense" you'll get fined/arrested and your knife would be confiscated, but if you say "it's for cutting stuff" or nothing at all, thats legal.

IANAL. Read your local knife laws.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Imo only an idiot would carry a knife for self-defence, especially if untrained. If someone (probably women especially) feels unsafe, carrying CS-spray would be more reasonable imo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its weird you got downvotes. A knife is a terrible weapon for self-defense, the odds of you getting fucked up by your own knife are extremely high. Pepper spray is far superior to a knife for any realistic self-defense situation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I knew a paramedic who said that the winner of a knife fight was the one who died in the ambulance instead of on the scene.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to all the young idiots in gangs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Doubt they carry knifes for self-defence. But then, gang-members are probably not the people with the best education.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almost all of our gun violence is the same, gang/drug related. The media here acts like it's random killings all over the place, its not. You have a better chance of drowning in a pool than getting killed by an ar15 here, yet people, even in this thread, think it's something that happens like every 3 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You conveniently left out school shootings. between 2018-2023 more than 1200 school shooting incidents occured. You literally can not kill a dozen of people with knives but u can easily do it with a gun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

No I did not. And no there was not 1200 school shootings, those numbers are created by the GVA and used as a propaganda piece for anti-2a rhetoric.

Even NPR did a piece on it:

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It wouldn't be wrong if someone wanted a knife for self defense though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'd feel fine with someone carrying a weapon if it's based on a reasonable fear, and they make an effort to stay trained/safe with the weapon. For instance, they exited an abusive relationship with a significant other who feels they "belong" to them.

But there's a lot of people who stretch the statement of "I don't feel safe" to far more cases than make sense.