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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both will lead to people getting killed eventually. It's near-unavoidable fact of reality. Better not let perfect be the enemy of good. The key is that less and less people are dying and getting injured.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is a bit of a false equivalency.

There is zero reason to think that Waymo software, that has slowly and incrementally rolled out to new areas, and relies on cameras, radar, and sonar, will have the same fatality rate as Tesla's FSD software that just got pushed out to anyone with a Tesla, and relies just on cameras.

More to the point, we still don't know if Tesla FSD can actually outperform a human. It is again, based on cameras that are worse than the human eye.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

More to the point

This whole conversation so far has entirely missed the point.

The fact that a self driving car company has gotten people killed is a moot point. Even if we had a self driving car that is 100x safer driver than humans it will still get people killed. Saying "This 100 times safer than human car company has gotten multiple people killed" doesn't mean anything. Human drivers get 110 people killed every single day in the US alone. That's the starting point. Not 0 people getting killed. The only thing that's important here is being better driver than human. Not perfect - better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

More to the point, we still don’t know if Tesla FSD can actually outperform a human. It is again, based on cameras that are worse than the human eye.

This whole conversation so far has entirely missed the point.

The only thing that’s important here is being better driver than human. Not perfect - better.

Not sure if you read the above?