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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or we could you know, reduce the number of guns. Wonder who the investors are in these school "safety" companies.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm all for gun control. As in, significant reforms, nationwide reforms. Real background checks. Limits on the types of guns. Insurance requirements. Safety training requirements. The list can keep on going....

That said, I'd still want an emergency alert system in schools. There are other threats and other situations where it could be needed, there is nothing wrong with having both.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As in, significant reforms

See: Australia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Juuuust about ideal, definitely.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure, except we are defenceless to the rampant dropbears. /s

Australia is a funny example for gun control. Yanks seem to think we have no guns at all, but the reality is that as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely, they aren't that hard to get.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely

Yeah, that's a pretty substantial improvement to what we have in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

According to polling most Americans support stricter gun control measures but not a ban. As usual, it's the Electoral College and FPTP (IMO, no country with either should be listed as a full democracy. Not USA, not UK, and not Canada.) Still, it is true that the gun issue is too often presented as binary (but I'd actually say this is just as common with foreigners arguing for gun bans as it is with Americans arguing against it.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could distract us from the real solution and delay it further

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Perfect shouldn't be the enemy of good.

It will take a lot longer to get proper gun control in place in the US. We've already got the GOP and their "Well it sucks, but too bad, move on" rhetoric going.

There is no reason not to minimize risk during the time it will take, even to get to where we we were 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Which do you think is easier, getting a system like this installed in a school, or changing US gun culture?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For the US, I think it would be so slow at catching up to more developed standards of gun control that it would be generational and not a matter of years. It's not so much the laws that are currently in place that's the issue, it's the lack of regulation that's created such an ingrained culture that's going to take a long time to evolve. So, technology like this would stil definitely be utilised in the future.

My thoughts, anyway.

And honestly, I didn't even realise there was another school shooting in the US. Internationally, I guess it just gets covered less and less because it's not really "news" anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think it even made the news here in NZ, if it did it was just one brief story.

Mass shootings are a matter of routine in the states.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I first saw it on salon under a story about Steve Doocy being an idiot. They barely make the news in the US unless there's some extra aspect that makes it unusual.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmmm, one involves fleecing school district funding in a grift, the other reduces profits to armaments manufacturers.

I really can't figure this out! How is it possible to know?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is this a grift? The system worked as intended, did it not?

And yes, changing the culture and mentality of an entire nation is the harder option. Do you really think otherwise?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, let's spend money on a system that only helps people in a specific set of buildings only during specific parts of the day and year when the buildings are occupied, rather than doing anything that would help society at large, at all times and anywhere in the country.

Like I said, it's impossible to know what the right thing to do here, much less actually do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You genuinely are an utter moron.