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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (25 children)

Every gen Z kid I know is having an issue trying to pick a pro-Palestine candidate. They seem to dislike Biden more than Harris, but I have never heard of trump support. I'm sure some amount of gen Z are trumpers but they are a minority, saying young male voters are "flocking" to trump is pretty silly. "There are literally dozens of us!"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (8 children)

You should educate them on the dangers of single-issue voting. Pro-life has kept the Republican Party afloat for decades.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've thought very hard about doing this. I used to be the same way and have changed my thinking. The problem is I don't think I can properly articulate this because 1. I am still trying to swallow that pill 2. I would just feel like a hypocrite so I wouldn't be able to deliver properly.

I do encourage others who do have the capability to try to point out the issues with single-issue voting.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The unfortunate truth is that neither Harris nor Trump is good for Palestinians, however there’s certainty that Trump will be worse. Voting third-party with enough momentum may change things over a long period of time, but that won’t help Palestinians now.

So if it’s a given that either Harris or Trump will be President next year, it’s either about weighing the other important issues, or accepting the candidate that hasn’t called for the eradication of Palestinians after removing restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So kind of just accept genocide is the only option.

Oh okay, yea I guess I can just keep living my life as long as people I care about aren’t being eradicated.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I didn’t suggest accepting genocide. I said that’s it’s a fact that either Harris or Trump will be President next year. Your acceptance of that fact does not change its inevitably.

You do, however, have the ability to prevent Trump from encouraging the eradication of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so prevent Trump from eradicating the Palestinians as opposed to just accepting the mere genocide that Kamala will allow and fund.

I guess I don’t understand the difference between eradication and genocide.

You’re probably right. At least with Kamala there will be a few Palestinians left at least?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In this case, the genocide you’re referring to is eradication. The difference isn’t between eradication and genocide. It’s between supporting Israel’s defense or funding and encouraging eradication while repealing laws that prevent them from settling on Palestinian territory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a great example where single issue voting leads you. There’s no understanding that it may not be that simple, no understanding that there’s a huge range of possible actions different than yours and NOT “both the same”, no understanding that there are many issues with huge impact on the world not just the one you feel most strongly about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This is a great example of you dismissing someone as being emotional when we are talking about fucking genocide. It’s fucking genocide dude. Get off your high horse and stop defending fucking genocide. This is not about an issue I feel strongly about, you creep.

This is about genocide.

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