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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Also I'd hate to see Scrivener touch AI - esp because they sponsor nanowrimo and still seem connected https://web.archive.org/web/20240902130810/https://www.literatureandlatte.com/nanowrimo

Scrivener is a hero product in my research/writing as an example of a software product that is designed for concrete purpose

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

A while back one of their reps did say somewhere on Reddit that they have no intention of adding any LLM features to Scrivener. Granted, they said that in the context of moving towards a subscription model and talking about features that don't work with their current business model, but still. Unless something has changed recently, they seem to want to stick to being a one-time purchase without any cloud-based services whatsoever, including AI, for their next major version too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Official word from Scrivener here https://xcancel.com/ScrivenerApp/status/1830556231431254328

our position on this is that we do not include any AI tools in our apps and allow users their own choice of where to back up work, allowing them to choose services that don't allow AI access. Thanks :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hope so. I know the founder designed it and then learned how to code to build it himself. Hopefully he's still running the show and he's a good one

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I use NovelAI myself. But you gotta provide good context since it mimics your own writing and isn't an instruct model. It's more of a "yeah, and—" for brief passages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

read the fucking room before you come in here and advocate for your favorite plagiarism machine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

NovelAI

I'll step up and say, I think this is fine, and I support your use. I get it. I think that there are valid use cases for AI where the unethical labor practices become unnecessary, and where ultimately the work still starts and ends with you.

In a world, maybe not too far in the future, where copyright law is strengthened, where artist and writer consent is respected, and it becomes cheap and easy to use a smaller model trained on licensed data and your own inputs, I can definitely see how a contextual autocomplete that follows your style and makes suggestions is totally useful and ethical.

But i understand people's visceral reaction to the current world. I'd say, it's ok to stay your course.