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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The electorate has been systematically driven into the arms of of those people by both the political establishment and the media for decades.

The political establishment has contended itself with turning austerity into some kind of state religion and administrating the resulting shortages. Whenever this has lead to discontent, they were happy enough to jump on the far right's bandwagon and adopted their talking points because they deluded themselves that they could get back lost votes this way, rather than admitting that they had caused the problems themselves and even trying to rectify them. The media have happily been helping this process along by rarely questioning the never ending austerity at the expense of the middle and lower classes, while parroting every single far right talking point. Now we're reaping what has been sowed in the past decades.

That the far right makes disproportional gains in the East is no surprise, as the East, especially its rural regions, has been systematically sold out and run down even further than under the GDR since reunification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

People vote for Nazis but the democratic parties and the media are to blame... Of course. It's never the Nazis who vote, it's always the others who made them do it who are at fault.

Fuck that. Get lost.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Nazis don't just become the way they are. There are reasons people flock to the far right. Not naming these reasons and being content with "Nazis will be Nazis" isn't productive.

Politics that consistently benefit the upper classes, while always framing the necessary helps for the weakest as stealing from the lower classes will get you there.

This didn't just happen, we did this to ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The established political parties and the media have created a societal climate in which it's no longer unacceptable to openly support Nazis. The entire political spectrum has shifted so far right that openly supporting a Nazi party isn't a taboo anymore. Thanks to that, people are now losing their inhibitions. On top of that, the established political parties have shown again and again that they don't give a flying shit about the wellbeing of the lower and middle classes. Of course, the Nazis don't either, but that doesn't matter to the people voting for them, because they are buying their propaganda, which is way too often just parroted by the media.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Fuck that. Get lost.

Please stay civil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How about you go do that fuck off thing yourself. These movements need a failing political system in which to pedal their bullshit and the world's neoliberals have been more than happy to provide it for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

History repeats itself even in this aspect. The original Nazis couldn't have come to power, weren't it for the Weimar Republic's political establishment turning into a colossal perpetual failure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think there have been studies that showed people vote for the AfD because they are racists and fascists and not because they're somehow left behind or don't feel included. However, I do think racism is driven up by our current capitalist society where we have to fight for the scraps the billionaire class deems sufficient for us. This makes it much easier to hate every foreign person, because you feel there will be even less scraps left for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think there have been studies that showed people vote for the AfD because they are racists and fascists and not because they’re somehow left behind or don’t feel included.

People have been racists and fascists before the AfD, too. But there wasn't a political climate that allowed anyone to publicly support a fascist and/or racist party without instantly being ostracised. As a result, fascist and racist parties were getting relatively little positive publicity and their election results were so meager that an attempt to ban the NPD failed for the simple reason of them not posing a realistic threat to democracy.

The entire political spectrum shifting towards the right, and the media increasingly taking up the far right's talking points, giving them a platform and positive publicity has emboldened the fascists and racists who previously would rather vote something else than throwing their vote away for a party that's not going to make it anyway to vote for the AfD. The reaction of the political establishment has been, rather than opposing their rhetoric, adopting their talking points, to such an extent that recently an AfD politician publicly boasted how the AfD doesn't even need to be in government in order to make changes, because everyone is doing their bidding anyway.

However, I do think racism is driven up by our current capitalist society where we have to fight for the scraps the billionaire class deems sufficient for us. This makes it much easier to hate every foreign person, because you feel there will be even less scraps left for you.

That's a big problem indeed and a large part of the current political climate. And instead of offering an alternative to the rat race, all relevant political parties have embraced and furthered it. There is a big vacuum on the left side of the political spectrum, a lot of the supposedly "left" political parties are neoliberal capitalists through and through and contend themselves with feel good leftism for a very small bubble of privileged (pseudo) intellectuals. Most people don't give a shit about things like gendered language (or are annoyed by it), but would instead be very much interested in making ends meet and having a life worth living with their hard earned income. But there is little to no classic working class leftism left in the left end of the political spectrum, at least not with any relevant party.