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submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Internet shutoffs should require a court order. Not some emails that are "this person did a bad 🥺🥺🥺 no proof but can you please take our word for it 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Internet shutoffs shouldn't be a thing, outside of non-payment or legitimate abuse. If I do something illegal, they should have to sue me, not shut off my internet.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they don't disconnect a criminals phone service because they committed a crime and made a phone call. It makes no damned sense.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only happens as a matter by court order and is a limit on the person not on the corporations. Though if found out after by the court it can be ordered terminated. And you will face further punishment. But this is levied against the person. As in "You are not allowed to do a thing and if we find out you did the thing you will face further punishments." Corporations should not have the responsibility or ability to determine any ones eligibility. They are a businesses not a government.They are responsible for their own tos and should never be anything more.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

government.They are responsible for their own tos

Piracy almost certainly violates their TOS

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Actually, that's been done several times over the decades. As well as banning computer access. The guy caught hacking into the fbi gets his mouse and keyboard taken away.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe not a court order. But I could get behind a process similar to other utilities where you have months or warning and paperwork.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If you do something illegal, you should be arrested.

Copyright infringement lawsuits are a far cry from bomb threats or the like.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not everything that is illegal is punishable by arrest

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, I've been ticketed for speeding, and that certainly doesn't come with the threat of arrest unless I'm driving super recklessly or something (but that's a different offense altogether).

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

So you're saying copyright infringement is on par with speeding or parking past the meter's end? Eh, fair enough.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly it is less severe than speeding. Copyright was an invention of the pre-digital era. Now that we all use computers, so many things we do every day are technically copyright infringement that it is absurd to even have these kinds of conversations.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I had to process these requests at a company I used to work for. They do send "proof" (proof in quotes because you have to believe in good faith they didn't just make it up, which I have to believe they didn't).

We never shut anyone off though. We worked with business exclusively and only ever sent "scary" letters. Though we had one client that was a major music venue (a very known venue that's pretty famous) who would get these letters all the time. The irony was too much for me. I ended up calling them personally most of the time because it was too funny.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I remember getting a scary letter because I was torrenting. I thought it so funny because I had to the only person in the world only torrenting freeaoftwarr and public domain works.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They don't give a shit about targeting accusations only towards people torrenting copyrighted stuff. Why would they? They have no consequences for being incorrect.

They are doing this automatically. They just grab all the magnet links they can find and target any IP they connect to, regardless of the content.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They have no consequences for being incorrect.

Which is why the DMCA shit is also bullshit.

Multiple false claims should result in you being banned from making future claims.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's not how it would work for us. We'd receive a report from the MPAA/RIAA that showed the torrent they were downloading, the IP address involved, if they were seeding or leeching and an affidavit saying that all the information was correct to the best of their knowledge.

The letter we sent basically was a notification that we received that letter (with a copy) and that if we received two more for the same IP (three in total) we would have to release their information to the reporting body and that they could be open to legal action. It also included some information on how to secure their network and check for viruses in case that was the cause.

In my 15 years working there, we never once released information about a client. Because this was business accounts, most clients had multiple IPs (at least a /29) and would cycle what IPs they showed up as on the public Internet to keep them from getting multiple notices on the same IP. The music venue I mentioned had an entire /24.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Add increasing penalties to that.

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