With the elections nearing and the Biden-Harris administration still being complicit in Genocide there is but one way for crocodile tear liberals to fix the issue: Start banning anyone who comments about the Biden administration being complicit in Genocide.
/Politics mod JordanLund who also mods /WorldNews decides Biden has nothing to do with the Genocide in Gaza
JordanLund banned users in the past for questioning israel's right to exist. JordanLund now takes it one step further and is now spreading misinformation about israel not running out of weapons without American support so Biden and Harris are "not complicit in Genocide":
I link him a guardian article proving he is lying (JordanLund has deleted my comment which just quoted a Guardian article debunking his lies):
Recent reports in the Israeli press make clear that because of a global shortage of ammunition that started with the Ukraine war, Israel would not be able to sustain its bombardment of Gaza without the US resupplying the Israeli military.
JordanLund responds by calling TheGuardian misinformation, promptly bans me and says he supports the "rightful defense of israel".
He also piles on more lies and claims the only weapons being sent by Biden are Interceptor missiles which are "misappropriated by israel for the use in Genocide"?
Reuters Exclusive: US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Between the war's start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs
Lemmy.World has reached /Politics and /WorldNews communities which differ little from their Reddit counterpart.
FYI, readers of /politics are very familiar with Linkerbaan and his nonstop hammering of a single wedge issue from a single narrow viewpoint. To be honest, I believe the mod made the correct choice.
I suspect he will jump on any procedural or technical issue that he thinks he can find with the mod log, etc, and at no point discuss his own position, motivation, interest in the matter, or any other facet of his participation that indicates that he is a good faith community member. I suspect this will come with personal attacks, ad hominem arguments, insults, and false attribution of other community members beliefs (including calling them, racist or genocidal) instead of addressing his own behavior.
Genocide is kinda big deal dude.
Making personal attacks against people who agree that it's a big deal but say that voting third party is counterproductive, though, is hammering a wedge issue from a narrow viewpoint.
Tho problem for me isn't viewing the genocide as bad. I am in full agreement there. The problem is the response to people who disagree about the most effective way to stop it.
Yeah. Only problem is that op wants people to let trump take the Whitehouse, so it's clear they have ulterior motives.
So people that want to vote for anti-genocide candidates, rather than the blue cheek of the same pro-genocide butthole, are the problem?
You really do go all over the place lying about everything all the time huh. Amazing how you never get banned from /world.
Yeah, turns out they only ban/persecute the fReEdOm FiGhTeRs who totally totally address the issue of electing trump. Of course, totally on accident and definitely not on purpose via intentional year-long campaign with it specifically in mind from day one.
Is Donald Trump in the room with us right now?
I know everyone else is, but is Donald Trump a Zionist?
Yes. Is TrickDacy a Zionist?
Is Linkerbaan a Zionist?
The political actions he promotes certainly would lean towards a "yes" answer...
Hey that's not fair when you count actions! Everyone knows the only criteria is if linkerbaan says so.
You decided I was long ago. But you're not trying to elect me president so why's that relevant?
What choice? Last I heard they reversed a bunch of his bans and decided against banning him from .world, which is what should've been done
This is a major issue. There are over 40,000 already counted dead and most are civilians. Dismissing the USβs aid in the destruction is disgusting.
β¦and your 2nd paragraph is whining about what you yourself are doing in your first. Gross
Pointing out someone's patterns of behaviour on a thread they started about their own behaviour is not an ad hominem attack. It's an on-topic discussion of the point at hand.
Calling someone who agrees that an ongoing genocide is dreadful but believes the suggested course of action will make it worse a genocide enabler, on the other hand, is an ad hominem.
You believe that i should be permabanned from politics for linking an article saying israel would have ran out of weapons if not for Joe Biden resupplying them because that's "misinformation"?
FYI readers, Aubeynarf is also a frequent poster on /Politics. You can guess what type of "nuanced viewpoint" he posts.
No, but banning someone for questioning Israel's right to exist is reasonable, since that's advocating for genocide.
I can see someone eventually getting fed up with the one-sided narrative, and it's true that Israel would not actually have ran out of weapons. We are not the exclusive supplier to Israel, simply the most convenient for them. They are capable of domestic manufacture and purchasing from other entities.
I was not banned for questioning the Apartheidheids state of israels right to exist, another user was.
A colonial Apartheid state is not a people. Saying Apartheid South Africa should not exist does not mean one supports the Genocide of white people.
Israel cannot get their 2000 pound school buster bombs and tank shells in this quantity anywhere else. Even the israeli press reported that israel was starting to run out of weapons before Biden resupplied them which is linked in my post you hopefully read.
Yes, a current supplier stopping its supplies to you will cause your stocks to go down. The mistake is in thinking this cannot be rectified in any other way. You're probably right that the big bombs could only come from us, but big bombs are not really required to destroy Gaza. Napalm would work just fine, and is very cheap. Tank shells are produced all over the world, and I'm not even sure Israeli tanks use NATO standard. If they do, then multiple suppliers could be found.
Actually it is genocide, since the only way to destroy the state of Israel would be to kill or drive away many of its citizens. When you destroy a people's way of life, that qualifies as a genocide, and is why current Israeli actions meet the qualification. If any other group did similar things to Israel, it would also meet the qualification. Saying a colonial state is somehow special is silly. It's people, living on land. Why they arrived there is largely irrelevant, when all of us colonized the whole Earth from Africa at a distant point in the past. Palestinians and Israelis, along with everyone else, are native to Africa, not the Middle East. Everything else is arbitrary. While we could all move back to Africa and leave the rest of Earth to the rest of the animal kingdom, I doubt current-day Africans would be very appreciative.
I'm not sure how your comment has anything to do with this thread, but abolishing Apartheid South Africa has magically turned into Genocide.
So are you claiming anyone posting the israel Ynet article that says israel is running out of weapons should be banned or not?
We were discussing criticizing Israel's right to exist, and whether that is or is not advocating for genocide. Reforming South Africa to change their apartheid system has very little to do with whether Israel should exist or not.
No, posting a single incorrect article should not result in a ban. A pattern of bad behavior should, though.
Interesting so you consider posting MBFC approved news articles bannable bad behavior.
Anything to justify your own narrative I guess.