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[-] [email protected] 145 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's no confusion. People like this just don't think a homeless person deserves anything.

I imagine they take it as an affront, that a homeless man could have the "gall" to take charity from them, while he has a phone "hidden" in his pocket, as if that means he's a con-man, and not really in need at all.

In their mind, if a homeless man owns a phone, then he can't be genuinely destitute. If he was then he should sell that phone to afford his next meal, instead of begging on the street.

Never mind that a phone is probably the single most important tool to in modern life to stay informed and connected, not to mention and entertained and sane.

Never mind that a phone could be the difference between staying homeless for ever, or finding work.

No - if you are homeless then you certainly aren't allowed to own any tools that would help you get out of it.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

It might also be their only way to apply for the benefits/shelter they're legally entitled to.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

My country gives free phones to the homeless because it's mandatory to function in today's world 🤷

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's charity programs in the US that do the same, and for people who aren't homeless but struggling. I agree it's a really important way of helping people.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Which first-world country is that?

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

When people say, "beggars can't be choosers", my response is always, "how do they stop being beggars, then, Karen?"

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

The conservative mindset believes social class is preordained. Karen believes people who have become homeless are destined to remain that way and it'd be a waste of resources to try to help them.

If you look at it through this lens, the phone is just prolonging their thrashing before they accept their fate and starve to death.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yep. The video "Always a Bigger Fish" from Innuendo Studios helps to clarify that mentality quite well: https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs [21:46]

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This video was great, thanks. I wish there was such a thing as a self aware conservative to refine the positions discussed and better understand how and why our worldviews differ

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, I’m a conservative and I don’t believe this stuff, but I believe you if you’re saying you’ve met someone who does.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

There's a lot more info on this when you relate it to an older analysis that says many people are seemingly in search of the 'deserving poor' as an excuse to never help anyone.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

they do not see and interpret reality.

they have their idea of what is, and then use visual input (for example) only as a muse to further develop that idea. you can't argue with them, because anything that doesn't support them just passes through (and if you trojan horse this, you are now the devil).

they're solipsists, and its by choice. not human beings, not entities in the same world as us, sharing the same context and world and connectedness and shit. in a very real way, these fuckers are taking the world from us, in a very real way, these fuckers are invaders from another world (a world they made up and does not exist, but which their consciousness occupies, which ours infringes upon).

that's why your uncle or whatever getting taken by fox news feels like such a loss. they are genuinely lost, the person is gone. no longer here. bricked in an unrecoverable manner.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Besides, phones are incredibly cheap now. I dropped my pixel 7 in a river a few weeks ago so I went to Walmart and asked for the cheapest android burner they had. For $100 it has a 90hz display, snapdragon 680, 5000mAh battery. I don't need any upgrade from this

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