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Kinda interesting to see a VFX youtube channel get this real about the industry (no doubt on the back of "No CGI is really just invisible CGI", see post here on that series).
And just to get a bit political ... the whole bidding system and the race to the bottom dynamic it's created (comes out in the interview with The Flash VFX supervisor) is a big part of the problem here.
Seems the studios are keeping the VFX firms at arms length from the industry, in the way they probably wish they could with actors. So when we all find ourselves just criticising the VFX of a film, and not blaming the director, producer or studio, it can't be a coincidence right? The system is designed to give the VFX people the least control, lease profit and least credit ... but the most "blame"? When in reality it's higher-level decisions by studios, producers and directors that are likely far more responsible.
You can imagine a world where the VFX firms (or houses or studios) get their own branding power. At the moment ILM and Weta probably have a bit of this, but probably mostly among nerds. It could be a more like what actors have though. Where we all know which firm did which shot, gain an appreciation for their quality and style and look forward to seeing a new film with their work in it. Of course everything they do is beholden to the director and script, so their not truly independent creative agents. But neither are the actors! And we all tend to like talking about the quality of VFX a bunch anyway.
I don’t know about that, Corridor Crew has been keeping it real on the realities of the VFX business for years now.
Probably fair, but to the point of interviewing an insider about how the system isn’t working and how unions are probably necessary?
I’d bet, without knowing, that there’s no way unions would have even been mentioned on the show until the past year or two.
Genuinely curious to know.
Who blames the VFX people? Obviously the director etc. has the last word. If those people let is pass it is their responsibility. Regardless of that the VFX people did. Same with actors and how they behave on set. If they enable it they are (part of) the issue.
I'd say many would criticise the VFX directly. Maybe not the VFX artists, as they're mostly invisible. But I don't feel like the directors and producers naturally come to people's minds as being responsible.