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“Kamala Harris Is Different”: Uncommitted Movement Welcomes Tim Walz Pick, Pushes for Gaza Ceasefire (www.democracynow.org)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I'll be blunt -- and I'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade -- but these reasons are all fluff:

President Kamala Harris has been telling colleagues in the administration that she wants the White House to show more concern publicly for the humanitarian damage in Gaza

As I said, being more sympathetic in public is meaningless if you don't back it up with holding Israel accountable for its actions. This is virtually no different from how Biden handled things.

Harris has argued that it is time to start making “day after” plans for how to handle the wreckage of the war once the fighting ends

"Once the fighting ends"? When Israel feels it has destroyed enough of Gaza and decides to stop, you mean?

she has called for being “more forceful at seeking a long-term peace and two-state solution,” this person said.

Netanyahu and his government of genocidal maniacs want neither peace nor a two-state solution. Netanyahu has explicitly stated this publicly. There is also broad support from the Israeli population in favor of the "war" in Gaza. Even if Netanyahu were removed from power tomorrow, there would still be a huge amount of resistance towards a two-state solution with the Palestinians.

Claiming to be aiming for two-state solution with Israel as it currently stands, without a concrete possibility of sanctions or an arms embargo, is a pipedream that is being used to enable the US to carry on supplying Israel with weapons. Until that supply of weapons is threatened, Israel will carry on doing exactly what it wants and any talk of peace and a ceasefire is little more than hot air.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Listen, I'm just looking for a reason to hold on to hope right now. Americans are brainwashed about foreign policy in such a thorough way that I can't see a scenario where we have a strong response against Israel's genocidal actions for quite some time. It's sickening, so when I see someone who is critical of Biden in his own administration, I appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I appreciate where you're coming from -- it would be a huge emotional relief to us all to see the killing in Gaza and the West Bank stop.

I just think there is a need to be realistic about the possibility of a meaningful shift when it comes to Palestine under a Harris presidency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

At this point, it's fingers crossed that bibi will piss her off enough that she actually stops sending arms

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