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Dutch beach volleyball player Steven van de Velde, who served time in prison after he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, won his second match at the Paris Olympics and received an even harsher reaction from the crowd on Wednesday than for his first match.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (10 children)

That, combined with him being on the Olympic team, sorta makes me concerned about Dutch people

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

I'm not sure what the law ought to be though. I personally think a 16 year old should be legally able to have sex with their 15 year old partner. Maybe in england the difference in age matters. But if not, and a 15 year old legally cannot consent, is this hypothetical 16 year old now a rapist? That doesn't sound right to me.

A 19 year old having sex with a 12 year old? That is clearly wrong and that's rightfully already illegal here. But it's not automatically rape because Dutch law does recognize consent from people under 16. I have no idea at what age people can give consent though. I'm not sure if there is a minimum. But if the 12 year old in this situation did not consent then it would obviously be rape, just to make that clear.

A question: what is the situation in other countries with high schoolers having sex? It must happen all the time that some 18 year old is dating a 15 year old and that they have sex. I think the overwhelming majority of Dutch people would not want that to be illegal, let alone considered rape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In the US generally people under the age of consent are allowed to have sex with one another though exceptions would be made if the age gap was too large. People the age of consent and older are not allowed to have sex with people below the age of consent, unless they're married.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wait so you can get married under the age of consent? That seems completely illogical... if you can't consent to sex surely you can't consent to marriage?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It is illogical but the people who support it aren’t our best.

We’re usually talking very fundamentalist christian sects and right wing politicians in the vein of Roy Moore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The parents have to consent to the marriage if the person is underage.

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