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would USA helicopters got shot down by the drone too?
People who answer you won't know what they're talking about.
People who know what they're talking about won't answer you.
Repost your question to the war thunder forums if you want it answered.
With citable sources even!
A helicopter will crash if you just look at it wrong. I'm not quite sure why this is surprising to a lot of people.
Just because a helicopter can go faster than a drone, doesn't mean it's always going faster than a drone. The benefit of vertical take off is that you can land and pick up troops in dangerous areas.
More than likely this is the same scenario as whenever they shoot down one of ours with an RPG in Afghanistan. Got them right after touch down or take off, or got a lucky hit while they were flying low and slow.
People really don't seem to understand how ridiculously flimsy helicopters can be. There's a reason why they're often called flying death traps by anyone who has to regularly be in one
Yup, and a second rotor just adds another way to die.
And making those rotors tilt adds many new and exciting ways to die
"We made our plane a helicopter so it works less."
"It may be slow, but it's dangerous to operate"
"It's got VTOL! Well, STOL. And by L we mean wear your seatbelt."
Yeap, only thing worse than rotary aircraft are apparently tiltrotar aircraft. The V22 is trying it's best to be the most dangerous thing in the air in the worst way possible.
We would offer the drone $2,200 and it would come work for us
I would guess so.
If we had a sensor package that could reliably detect FPV drones out there, I suspect that it'd be getting mass-produced and sent to the Ukrainians.
A helicopter can go faster than an FPV drone, so as long as it's in the air, and has a bit of warning, it can just outfly the drone; the drone can't catch up. Maybe multiple drones simultaneously coming from all directions, especially if there's also heavy air defenses that prevent the helicopter from climbing, could still bring down a helicopter.
"A bit of warning" is probably overselling the acceleration of a traditional rotorcraft. You can't safely get four tons of anything moving quickly using the same mechanism keeping it off the ground. Compare that with minimalist disposable quadcopters, with their zero-to-top-speed profile of "holy shit, where'd it go?"