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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

slaughters a bunch of innocents while looking them in the eyes

So it's the eye contact that you object to?

Because the occupation forces have been doing the rest of the things you list and more for 75 years.

I'm not saying that justifies terrorism, nothing does, but if you want to cast the greater villain, it behooves you to choose the ones that have killed, raped and abducted by far the greater numbers while being the only ones with the power to stop or at the very least dramatically deescalate the atrocities.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, Hamas has the power to stop. All they have to do is surrender and release the hostages. After that if Israel continues THEN it is a genocidal atrocity. Until then it is the intentional consequences of Hamas hiding behind children to protect themselves. The only reason Israel has the higher body count is Hamas uses mass civilian casualties to try and garner sympathy (and you're supporting that strategy). Not Israel's fault. Negotiating with terrorists is unethical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas has the power to stop

The power to stop Israel? The FUCK they do!

All they have to do is surrender and release the hostages

Bullshit. Netanyahu himself keeps saying that they'll not accept any deal that doesn't let them resume the genocide after getting the hostages back.

Hamas and the hostages are just pretenses covering for the fact that the fascist apartheid regime is hellbent on killing or displacing all Palestinians and erasing all traces of them ever existing in Gaza.

After that if Israel continues THEN it is a genocidal atrocity.

As I pointed out above, the intent is clear: the Israeli government wants to "eliminate Hamas" and considers every Palestinian a part of or at the very least in support of Hamas. Including the children.

It that's not enough for you to admit that it's a genocide, nothing will be.

Until then it is the intentional consequences of Hamas hiding behind children to protect themselves

Fun fact: the IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields much more often than Hamas does. Does that make any violence against Israeli civilians acceptable? Of course not!

Your double standards are showing.

The only reason Israel has the higher body count is Hamas uses mass civilian casualties to try and garner sympathy

No, Israel has killed over 100x as many because Israel has one of the biggest and most advanced military in the history of humanity whereas Hamas is a couple thousands of poorly armed terrorists and the real "enemy" the IDF is targeting is the Palestinian population at large.

and you're supporting that strategy

Classic Zionist bullshit. Not being pro-genocide like you doesn't mean that I'm pro-Hamas.

Whether Hamas is "trying to" make it so or not, it takes someone who's either heartless or completely blinded by Hasbara gaslighting to see 186,000+ die, most of them civilians, and not have sympathy for the civilians of Gaza.

Not Israel's fault.

That's the biggest lie you've told yet, which is saying a shitload.

Negotiating with terrorists is unethical.

So what you're saying is that Israel has to keep up the genocide? After all, it's not like they have anyone else to negotiate with than Hamas.

Be better. Or at the very least less credulous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: the IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields much more often than Hamas does. Does that make any violence against Israeli civilians acceptable? Of course not!

Non-biased citation (aljazeera and friends don't count) please.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah, best you can do is a few reports where prosecution of those involved is inadequate, but at least existent. So it isn't policy of Israeli forces, just a few bad apples? Gotchya ;)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One bad apple spoils the bunch. When you have a few bad apples you throw the barrel out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey I wonder if Hamas could be considered 'a few bad apples'?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's the apples and there is the bunch. IDF is the bunch I was talking about with individual soldiers who are caught committing the crimes being the bad apples. Hamas is all bad apples as far as the bunch goes. But if you're insinuating that Palestine is the bunch then that's just the kind of dehumanizing energy the IDF is looking for. You should join and take pot shots at kids playing in the streets to fill the hospitals before calling in an airstrike.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

No Palestinians aren't 'the bunch'. All those that refuse to coexist peacefully with Israel the past 80 years are.