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The bit on government. The State, for Marx, is the elements of Government that actively uphold Class Society, ie Private Property Rights. The role of government in AES countries should be to actively diminish class distinctions and remove the elements of the previous Class Society.
The government sort of becomes everything, ie the US post office is a government job. Trying to shrink government when the government is how everything gets made is silly.
Have you read Marx?
Fair, no I see where we disconnected, what I wanted to say with no government is, I think, equivalent to what you refer as government becomes everything
To the classless part: are social credits really something that upholds class society? Is exploitation of minorities something that upholds class society?
And no, I have not read it yet, and I did not told you prior, since I feared you would stop talking normal knowing that
Yep, Marx wrote in the 1800s using 1800s political terminology, which results in confusion today.
What do you mean by "Social Credits," and what do you mean by "exploitation of minorities?" I'd like an example, it seems like you're referring to something specific here. Either way, exploitation of minorities is an evil, anti-socialist stance, but it's important to understand that no state is stagnant, and is always progressing in some direction. If it is increasingly becoming more progressive as compared to its peers and its past self, this is a good thing. Cuba, for example, now has a more progressive Family Code than the US for LGBTQ individuals.
I'd be lying if I told you I was surprised, haha. As long as people are reasonable and willing to learn, I try to be as level-headed as possible. There's no point otherwise.
I guess I am just too china focused 😅
Cuba seems nice, in that case, have to check that out in more detail
But to have better lgptq rights than US does not seem that hard to be honest 🫣
In what way?
Generally yes, in spite of brutal blockades, they have made the best of what they have.
Certainly a low bar, but unfortunately the bar is extremely low to begin with, worldwide, and everyone has a long way to go on that front.
Well, the examples were while thinking about china
Hmm, after some research, cuba seems not very nice anymore
Seems again like a country where your only options are to fly, to comply or to risk your live demonstrating, if you disagree with a decision of the government. It seems to be a single party system, like china.