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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

All this is a path to a police state.

In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

That's the solution.

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Police recruit who lost both legs in ‘barbaric hazing ritual’ sues Denver, paramedics and officers (apnews.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18127079

DENVER (AP) — A police recruit who had to have both of his legs amputated after losing consciousness and repeatedly collapsing during fight training at Denver’s police academy is suing those who allegedly forced him to continue the “barbaric hazing ritual” after paramedics ignored warning signs.

Victor Moses, 29, alleges in a lawsuit filed Tuesday that aggressive officers knocked him down multiple times in the second round of “fight day” last year, with one of them shoving him off the mat and causing him to hit his head on the floor. He said he was pressured to continue, with officers picking him up and setting him back on his feet, before paramedics standing by were asked to check him out, the lawsuit said.

Moses told them he had the sickle cell trait, which puts him at an increased risk of medical complications from high-intensity exercise. He also said he had very low blood pressure and complained that his legs were cramping, according to the lawsuit. The symptoms are danger signs for people with his condition.

Nevertheless, paramedics cleared Moses to return to training, which the suit alleges was a decision made to support the police.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Every one of those fuckers should be looking for new careers, including their COs.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every one of those fuckers should be looking at a prison cell wall.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Join the Police. You can do anything!
(and get away with it)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know how things work in your country, but here in AMERICA 🦅, the police have the supreme court constitutional RIGHTS. That might not mean much to you but it means a lot here.

These officers of the LAW have the most difficult job in the world and MUST be able to do their job without the fear of being punished. How do you expect them to save an armed white shooter or to stop a black 6 year old kid holding a gun pop-tart if they have to second-guess their actions?!

The THIN blue line is all that separates us from the migrant criminals that are terrorizing our cities.

Just be glad you live in a country where your borders are secure from all of the migrants!