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The problem isn't function or safety, it's cost. It isn't cost effective to build or renovate a nuclear plant compared to wind or solar. If you have one in good condition, it makes sense to let it run its lifetime, but it makes little sense to build new.
Well it's probably cheaper to keep coal plants running, if money is the metric we care about.
Standardization and modularity.
Yes, the first plant would be expensive, but the cost would drasticly go down once production gets under way.
Make the plant design modular as well, so if the plant it built next to water, it can use the water to discharge heat, and not need cooling towers.
This isn't a huge problem.
The problem is cost and time. Its all fine and dandy to say we just need to make it modular, but the required R&D for that will take many years and then you need to build up production capacity and actually install them.
If this were the 1990ties, I would agree, but it isn't, so let's please be realistic and focus on what can be done now, which isn't modular nuclear reactors.
All you achieve by focussing on nuclear is letting the coal plants run at least a decade longer, while we do have better and cheaper alternatives right now that just need to be installed.
I am not blind to the issues with developing nuclear power, but nothing good will come from just standing still.
Start small scale development of nuclear power today, we will never get rid of baseload, and solar/wind can't deal with it well enough, sure we could deply batteries and have solar/wind charge them up ahead of a still night, but batteries degrade, so you'll soon need to rebuild them.
The environmental movement psycosis around nuclear power has caused immesurable harm to the planet, and I am quite distrustful of their evaluations of nuclear energy.
Here is a very interesting documentary from BBC Horizon from 2006, it concerns our fear of radiation: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7pqwo8
I don't think it will be easy to restart nuclear energy construction, no, I know it will be dificult, but I don't think it will be as dificult as the environmental movement claims.
Battery technology is an extremely well developed field with already existing and currently under construction large production facilities. Battery degradation is also much less on an issue with stationary installations, both due to how they can distribute the load to avoid deep discharging and due to the fact that some drop in total capacity is less relevant. Furthermore, redox-flow batteries basically do not have this issue.
Its pointless to argue what-ifs, when renewables combined with grid level battery storage is the cheaper and more easily scalable solution. Nuclear is an outdated relic of the past, just let it die.
Untill I am satisfied that the new grid can deal with baseload I will not stop talking about nuclear power.
Nuclear power in its current form is actively detrimental to grid stability, as it is produced in a few central locations and can not be realistically up and down regulated.
The newly installed decentralised grid batteries in California have just proven that this model works much better.
New nuclear plants can be regulated without problems. Old nuclear plants weren't designated that way, although they can be improved to be able to do it, but this isn't usually done as old plants will most likely be shutdown in the short term and investors don't want to spend any money in them.
No, hypothetical new modular plants might be better at regulation, but the recently build and still under construction ones are not.
No, already existing nuclear plants can regulate, as it's needed for places with lots of nuclear power like France.
https://www.powermag.com/flexible-operation-of-nuclear-power-plants-ramps-up/
As the article you linked also states, this feature is largely theoretical and for operational and economic reasons utility companies do not use it unless forced to. In France specifically, the high percentage of nuclear power makes it look like you can regulate it quite well, but that is an artifact of looking at total numbers that does not transfer to other grid situations where nuclear is only a small percentage of the overall production capacity. Generally speaking, nuclear and renewables are a bad match, and if you have to chose between them, renewables clearly win on both economics and scalability.
Sure, highly theorical:
Of course they don't use it unless force to, as the article states it's cheaper to ramp down fossil fuels than nuclear. And this is a benefit, not a problem. But its also cheaper to ramp down nuclear than renewables, and this is also a benefit.
Nuclear and renewables are a better match than fossil and renewables, and right now we are doing fossil and renewables. We've been decades asking for no nuclear in the hopes of getting only renewables and we've gotten fossil and renewables.
This study says otherwise: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544223015980