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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Start saving for retirement now. You can make literally millions by putting away 10% of your income early on. Do it automatically so you never even notice the money gone.

If you are worried about making the wrong choice and your company doesn’t have a 401k, open an IRA somewhere (Fidelity if you need someone to make the decision for you) and pick a date targeted fund. Set up auto deposit. Never look at the balance.

You can always make it better later but for now the best thing to do is start. Don’t let analysis paralysis get in the way.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If 20 year old me put away 10% of her income, it would just mean borrowing more. Current me would just have more debt and be worse off than now.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah a lot of people in there twenties can't even spare 5%. I'm thirty and I can't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Some companies in the US have a deal to where they match on 401k. One such organization puts in 5% for your 2%. Two percent is low enough it wouldn't be a hit to almost any cash in your pocket given that the money is taken out pre tax.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to come off as insensitive, so I'll try to phrase things carefully.

If you have even the slightest spare money per pay period, like $30, and a 401k or 403b is offered to you, you really need to do it.

That money comes out of your check before taxes, so you will be investing more money than what actually comes out of your check. By deduction 6% of a $15/hr full time job, you're putting in $36, but your paycheck will only go down about $30-free money!

Many places will match you some, say half of that first 6%, so now you're saving $54 while only being out $30. You've almost doubled your money in one week!

Come tax time, you've saved $1872, and you've been given a free $936. It doesn't stop there though, because now you only are paying income tax on $29,328 instead of $31,200. If you get a tax rebate now, you will get even more back!

So now you're saving $2808 a year at age 20. Let's put that in one mutual fund, a SP500 index fund. Over the last 10 years, that has returned 12‰, but let's be conservative and call it 10. If you never make a cent more per hour, by age 65, you will have saved $84,000 and your job has chipped in $42,000, over a year's pay! But with that 10% compound interest, you have $2,000,000! You are a multi-millionaire for $30/wk!

If you get a raise or get a better job in the future, this number can be even higher.

Please keep this in mind. Even if you can't do it now, do it ASAP. Here are the same numbers, but starting at 30 instead of 20.

Still amazing, but seeing this difference is why we older on ones tell you not saving earlier was our big regret.

I hope this was helpful and doesn't get taken as a "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's cool and all but I have to pay rent and food and as things stand now the average salary is like enough to cover ⅓ of the rent

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You entirely missed the point he was trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I understand what he's trying to say. The point is: doing what he recommends requires having money to save up in the first place, and for a big portion of people in their 20s that's not the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It's valid, and it sucks. If you can even do $5, it's worth it. But the world is absolutely against you right now. A lot of older folk don't quite get how bad it's gotten.

However, saving a dollar today is worth more than saving two dollars ten years from now. And having an emergency fund might actually save your life.

Hopefully something happens to shake up housing. These prices are absolutely criminal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Question: If I had money saved in a 401k or Roth IRA, what if I died before I retired? What would happen to the money? Would it go back to the government or to a close relative?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

You can (and should) assign a beneficiary for the account. They receive the money if you die.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You declare your beneficiaries when signing up - it goes to them, I believe.