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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s actually worse, can make you really sick if you get unlucky

The part that gets me is this...

You can get salmonella from unpasteurized milk. This happens a lot...especially considering America pasteurizes the majority of its milk...but when you hear of a milk-related outbreak a lot of the time it's from unpasteurized milk even though percent wise it's a small portion of our milk supply.

Anyway. A healthy adult might get through salmonella ok. BUT. Salmonella can completely fuck up a 3 year old's kidneys FOR LIFE. And it can be just as bad for the elderly.

These are both groups that have other people providing their food. If a 3 year old or child is given milk by mom and dad...well, they drink it. They have no choice in whether it's pasteurized or not. That's why government regulation of milk steps in, to make sure dumb people having babies don't harm their kids through their poor choices.

Giving unpasteurized milk to kids is similar to anti-vaxxers not vaccinating their kids. Basically, the parent involved has gone haywire over any smaller/imagined detriment or benefit, and chooses the action that could bring the MOST harm while thinking they are taking the route of least harm.

With raw milk, parents think the "nutrients" are better or something (even though...you know...we cook most of our food so MOST of our food is heat treated), and the food poisoning from possible salmonella minor/non-existent, when reality the nutrient profile isn't much different between pasteurized/unpasteurized milk, but the salmonella can kill the vulnerable or cripple their organs for life.

It all comes down to people being alive now in an era where we no longer have elders/grandparents telling others about how people used to DIE from these things.

People hear about getting cancer or dementia or whatever all the time, but haven't actually seen the old-school childhood illnesses from tainted milk or viruses or the like, so people make the wrong choice because it's not apparent from their own life experience how bad those illnesses were since they don't have family that talks about people they knew who got sick and died. The science is too abstract for them to internalize, but "choosing your own food" feels good and feels like you're in control...so people go down that route instead because they haven't seen the consequences of salmonella in their own family or in their friends (because there's a lot of barriers in places, including pasteurization of milk, to try to stop/prevent outbreaks.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Worth adding that the current bird flu outbreak that's spilled over to dairy cows is another significant risk with raw milk that doesn't exist in pasteurized milk. Relevant source with some details on how it affects the poor farm cats