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After a public letter condemning all protesters.
It's almost as if politicians (particularly at this level) often need to walk a rhetorical tightrope so as to avoid alienating large swathes of voters. Crazy.
Its almost as if the person you're responding to is saying that public letter condemning all protestors is alienating them. Crazy.
You mean SOME, not all. That is the tight rope. You're not everyone
"them" was referring to the person who wrote the message
Yes, that is what they said. And...?
I believe the point they're making is that she alienated more voters condemning the protests than she would have by refusing to.
Are those voters likely to vote for Trump instead? Or do you think the centrists that Democrats tiptoe around during election years are?
Once she's in, once the immediate danger to the basic functioning of our government is over, I'll be interested to see how she handles it. Right now though? She seems to be providing criticism while walking a careful line and trying to play it safe.
If she doesn't come firmly down on refusing to materially support the IDF after the election, I'll be first in line to start making noise about it. But at the moment? We need to secure our ability to have future elections first or it's going to get a whole lot worse. I get it.
FIFY
The majority of the Democrat voterbase opposes genocide. She is continuing to drive Democrat voters to third parties by not taking a strong anti-genocide stance.
I love how simple people here think this is. Just say fuck Israel, go full force against them and when Trump wins we will..... Wait, what?oh yeah, now we don't get the votes we need to win and now Trump wins and now Trump will make it exponentially worse for Gaza and Ukraine and the entire fucking world.
It. Is. Not. That. Easy.
Let her win first, shall we, please? Pretty please? Once she wins you can throw all this anti genocide stuff on her head but until then please realize that she'll have to appease large groups of people who are so pro Israel that they ignore the genocide.
Exactly. Also, it's interesting that these people are nowhere to be found at primary time, nor do they ever seem to give a shit about anything below Presidential election.
If they actually give a shit about electing progressives, they wouldn't disappear for four years.
This. I say this every time and somehow it doesn't help, nobody gets it. Politics, any politics, is walking tightropes. Even dictators have to walk certain tightropes to not get toppled within minutes. Democracies are so much worse (and thus better, in the end) when it comes to tightropes everywhere
So, this "tightrope walk" gives politicians a free pass to lie to voters about what they intend to do once they're in office? How is that fair? No one is able to make an informed decision that way.
How can deceiving citizens possibly improve the quality of leadership in any country, democratic or otherwise? It's called manipulation and that's what you do when you don't want the other party to have a choice in the matter. It's what you do when you want to seize control.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying that that's unfortunately how politics works
Same excuse Biden used to condemn the student protesters.