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Nearly two-thirds of Democrats say President Joe Biden should withdraw from the presidential race and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to a new poll, sharply undercutting his post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him even if some “big names” are turning on him.

The new survey by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, conducted as Biden works to salvage his candidacy two weeks after his debate flop, also found that only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.

The findings underscore the challenges the 81-year-old president faces as he tries to silence calls from within his own party to leave the race and tries to convince Democrats that he’s the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump. The poll was conducted mostly before Saturday’s assassination attempt on Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. It’s unclear whether the shooting influenced people’s views of Biden, but the small number of poll interviews completed after the shooting provided no early indication that his prospects improved.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Progressives have not abandoned Biden because Biden has basically promised them whatever the fuck they want for the next administration so long as they stand behind him. Even AOC is saying she’s with Biden.

I’m not even mad. I would consider taking that gamble as well. But the Biden administration knows that if the progressive wing of the party truly leaves them they are fucked

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Right…just like he promised Elizabeth Warren a cabinet spot if she dropped out of the 2020 primary and backed him instead of Bernie.

I couldn’t disagree with your last sentiment more. If there’s one last bastion of bipartisan compromise in this country, it’s to work together to keep progressive leftists out of office at all costs, because they are the only true threat to the massive amount of capital that’s been stolen by the ruling class over the past 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you are a progressive democrat in the house you sure as shit are going to try to get the president to owe your bloc. That’s politics man. Can’t say I love it but it at least makes sense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m not arguing that, you’re right. I just don’t think they’re effectively using their leverage.

That said, their hands are tied for now, because if any of them said anything at all about Biden stepping down before it actually happens, the entire narrative would shift to “progressives undermine Dem chances, it’s all their fault.” Establishment dems are so eager to learn the wrong lessons in these situations…conveniently allowing them to never have to evolve their politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah no kidding re: establishment learning the wrong lessons

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes then they did the math on Senate votes and realized they need Liz and Bernie to stay put to have any shot at taking control from McConnell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those seats would have been filled by republicans?!?! lol k.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Massachusetts isn't as safely blue as people assume. Bernie in the Senate is far more helpful than having a cabinet roll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bernie was going to be the presidential nominee. Cabinet positions got offered for other progressives to back Biden instead of him once they dropped out, thus securing Biden the win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Sure keep crying about Bernie getting sabotaged.

Biden stomped Liz in Maine and Massachusetts. Also beat Bernie by a decent amount.Then beat Bernie by a lot in Michigan and Wisconsin. Two critical swing states. That was the moment people realized Biden had the wider appeal and better shot.