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I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 months ago (16 children)

I am an unapologetic leftist, and, like most other leftists, I do not believe that engaging in the liberal democratic process will, or even can, bring about my ideal society. However, while I don't think voting is likely to make things meaningfully better, I do think it can prevent things from getting meaningfully worse. Maybe fascism can't be defeated with votes, but I can't see how anything is lost by trying. I mean, why make it easier on the fascists? I'm sure the fascists won't just give up because they lost an election, but that's not a reason to hold the door open for them. Again, I don't think voting for Biden (or whoever the Democratic candidate ends up being) is going to make things much better, but I do think not voting for him could make things much worse. So, we (leftists) should all vote for the Democrats this November. Not because it's going to get us nearer to our ideal, or our ultimate goals, but because it might help prevent the US from being taken over by fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

So, we (leftists) should all vote for the Democrats this November.

Great, and I have. Yet the democratic party does not make electoral reform a priority. Are they ever going to address the problem of all these disenfranchised voters who don't want to vote for them? Why is the DNC gambling the future of the nation state every election on the Republicans driving voters to them?(because they ALL have been the most important election ever)

It's clear we need more political parties involved simply because the democrats are incredibly weak. Democrats need to beg people they dont represent to vote for them to stop fascism. That's the point of your entire comment right? Doesn't sound like they're doing well in this existential fight.

Democrats can't fight the republicans alone. Democrats need backup to defeat the republicans. Don't you want more chances to defeat the republicans? Don't you want more people on the debate stage to call out trumps bullshit?

First Past The Post voting has got to go before it ends us all.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

...the democratic party does not make electoral reform a priority. Are they ever going to address the problem of all these disenfranchised voters who don't want to vote for them?

Probably not.

Democrats need to beg people they dont represent to vote for them to stop fascism. That's the point of your entire comment right?

Correct.

Democrats can't fight the republicans alone.

Yes, that's true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

how many times are you going to spam this? espescially that skewed youtube video that seems to be designed to push people toward strategic voting instead of voting for their values.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Because the party is a coalition. If they did that, they'd just lose the swing voters who actually play kingmaker to repiblican backlash

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