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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A war against the elected government in a climate of disinformation doesn't seem doable. You don't get a majority until it's too late.

Efforts has been punched down the same way as in russia. Dictatorships end with war.

The only solution is to not elect fascists in the first place.

What would a civil war in America look like these days, 30+ years of ambushes and small battles until people get tired and end it without a solution? US cities will look like Bagdad and your short lives will be miserable.

Getting violent now as a violent minority will push the majority to the guys defending, not the guys attacking. Trump doesn't live in a vacuum and he has been coming a long way, but by getting violent now, he will get bonus points.

Your only chance is to not elect him. How do you think you will motivate enough people to kill strangers and neighbours when you can't even convince them to vote.

So how about starting to make people vote instead of inciting violence on the Internet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Im not american, im just watching the dumpster fire burning while asking sincere questions about it, and wondering at what point drawing parallels stops being “hurr they arent nazis”

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They are indeed Neonazis, there's no doubt about it.

You shouldn't be inciting violence just for your amusement, though.

When it starts in the US, it will land right in the front of your door.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I am not inciting violence, at all. I have repeatedly said I disagree with it.

But at some points in history, when we can look back, I think its valid to consider what could have been done differently.

When I ask these questions, I am not saying violence is the only answer. I am wondering what other pathways could have been taken

Could the german people have rid themselves of the nazis without violence? That would of course be preferred.

Could the US civil war, which really was about “we want slaves”, instead have been entirely nonviolent instead?

Could the american revolutionaries created a new country separate from the british empire, without violence?