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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

nobody else is going to feel sympathy

The undecided voter who only pays attention to the news when something "big" is happening doesn't like assassins and think fist pumping after a bullet flies by your head like a cheesy movie scene is super cool.

Beyond that, the rhetoric of violence just kind of validates all the claims about might making right that fascists hold on to anyway, which is probably a bit to esoteric for a lot of people to see but I'm pretty sure it shows dividends that will undermine future efforts at a better society. I won't say violence is never justified (e.g. self defense situations), but just as a political tactic against fascism assassinations are like cutting the head off a hydra.

e;

We are on the brink.

This I emphatically agree with.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If an "undecided" voter decides to vote for trump because he got shot? They are the dumbest mother fucker in existence and were looking for an excuse to vote for a fascist anyway.

I’m pretty sure it shows dividends that will undermine future efforts at a better society.

That ship has sailed. We are no longer fighting for a better society. We are fighting for a society period.

If the end result is "This nation is fundamentally broken and we need to re-assess the constitution before we engage in full blow civil war... again"? GOOD.

But that self awareness is not going to happen under the fascists who are openly undermining the country and planning to make trump a king.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Agreed, however, I think a lot of voters are vying for the title of "dumbest motherfucker in existence" so I will definitely keep fighting tooth and nail to make sure people I know vote and fight against fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Therein lies a massive problem with the US electorate. Be it due to modern media, poorly funded schools, or more probably, both of those things, you're going to need a plurality of the dumbest motherfuckers in existence to vote for you if you want to win just about any election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes. It is The struggle

But if something as trivial as "his ear was too close to a speeding bullet and he bled a bit" wins him a vote? That voter was never going to be YOUR voter.