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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is. If there is no punishment for getting someone killed, then why would anyone give a shit at their job that involves safety? Airplane mechanics are held responsible for their failures, should we throw that out the window and when they forget to tighten down a bolt that drops a plane just say whelp, better luck next time, lets get George some more training and hope he follows the procedures that are in place to prevent that from ever happening again.

If there is no consequence, then there is no need for rules and laws.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Airplane mechanics are held responsible for their failures, should we throw that out the window and when they forget to tighten down a bolt that drops a plane just say whelp, better luck next time, lets get George some more training and hope he follows the procedures that are in place to prevent that from ever happening again.

You are joking, but that's almost exactly what happens. Aircraft investigations are universally conducted on the basis of not assigning blame, but figuring out how to prevent this in the future.

The point is that airplane mechanics generally do not forget to tighten bolts out of pure evil intent. They are for the most part just ordinary humans who can be expected to behave as such. Therefore when an error occurs it is a failure of the system, not them personally. Replacing them with another human who makes human mistakes doesn't fix anything.

In this case we ask the same thing: what happened that caused things to go so wrong on this set, and what can we change to prevent that from happening again? I'm quite certain that putting this person in jail is not the answer to that question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In this case we ask the same thing: what happened that caused things to go so wrong on this set, and what can we change to prevent that from happening again?

What happened? She didn't do her job.

How do you prevent it from happening again? Make sure there are repercussions for not doing your job. Something like maybe jail? That's a pretty big deterrent.

Edit: I'm not big on sending people to jail. I do believe sex crimes, and violent crimes are 100% jail worthy. Drugs, theft shit like that, no. If you get someone killed because you didn't follow what you are contracted to do, then yeah, I think you need to go to jail. Not for years, but 18 months, that might be a little long but it's not unfair. You took a life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Something you may have missed from one of EatATaco’s earlier comments:

It's not like anyone who look at this and say "well, I can be careless and just bank on the cops fucking up," so the deterrence is already there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

First time I downvoted you in this thread because ..

If there is no punishment for getting someone killed, then why would anyone give a shit at their job that involves safety?

I explicitly covered this by saying noone is going to think "well, I'll just be careless and bank on cops or prosecutors screwing up the case" so the deterrence factor is still there. Well, if there is someone that dumb, I doubt any deterrence is going to stop them.