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Suggestion: asking for the community's thoughts before defederating with an instance (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It'd be nice if the admins got everyone's input on these sorts of things. Admins making decisions without thought to our opinions is what drove us here from reddit. I'm not going to lose sleep over hexbear defederation in particular, but it's a disconcerting precedent.

I know I can just leave to another instance, but I've started [email protected] here and don't want to have to move that too 😓

(Apologies if this isn't the place to share suggestions. Also I do appreciate the hard work the admins are doing. My sincere thanks!!)

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[+] [email protected] -15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it is users job to find an Instance that does things in a way they will approve of.

You're missing the forest for the trees here. If this sort of "defederation because I feel like it" shit catches on, the whole concept of the fediverse will not work. You can go to another instance, sure, but what if the admin of the instance that you just left desides they don't want to federate with the instance that you're going to join. Maybe they decide to be like Beehaw and make every instance that wants to federate meet their standards first.

The idea that users can just leave and find another instance only works if all instances are connected and being administrated fairly and unbiasedly. Increasingly that looks like it's not going to be the reality, which means leaping around instances is going to result in hitting a lot of invisible walls.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is just fear mongering to me. Just because some people defederate with some other people, does not mean everyone will suddenly start defederating with everyone.

That's just a slippery slope argument, and no better than the rest of them. There is no reason the behavior would suddenly spread everywhere, especially given how much of the Fediverse shares your exact opinion.

I haven't seem any polling, but it seems fairly close to a 50/50 split between people who strongly disagree with defederation vs those that do not. That is plenty of people to keep most of the service federated.