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Oh look... a liberal that refuses to see white supremacism when it's literally on a screen a few inches from their face.
Yawn.
Wo did you think the (so-called) "ghouls" really are a stand-in for? Who did you think the (so-called) "tribals" are a stand-in for?
Even if you're right, you don't need to be such a smug prick about it. They're literally just asking a question.
I'll try and keep that in mind.
But I am dealing with liberal here, you know.
Dude if you care at all about expanding your ideology beyond yourself, it behooves you to not be an insufferable jerk to literally everyone you talk to. Your demeanor completely undermines any effort you might make here to (perhaps even rightly) challenge the societal norms you deem inadequate, unjust, or otherwise bad. People will just assume you sit in a continuous state of masturbatory rage and dismiss anything you might have (even potentially of substance) to offer to the conversation. Frankly I'm not sure I've ever read anything in print which so clearly expressed an air of self-righteous smugness, save for perhaps something by Bill Maher or Richard Dawkins.
Figure out how and when ad hominem is appropriate. Learn how to disagree tactfully. Try to exercise some empathy, at least to the point of being able to connect with folks long enough to rattle off whatever rhetoric you have in the ol' back pocket.
You are assuming I'm here to "expand" an ideology - that's a bad assumption, and you should feel bad about that.
I wish - that sounds lie a lot more fun than whatever this is.
Okay, I have to admit - that kind of stings.
I'm afraid that I don't have the energy to waste on respectability politics - I don't have a thousand years to wait until liberals (magically) become "ready" to hear how the liberal consensus has screwed them (and the rest of us) over. It's going to have to happen in a more abrupt fashion - but I can assure you... they will come out the other side without a scratch on them.
I'm not here to recruit people for some "ism." I'm here to throw a wrench into the machinery of recruitment itself. Nobody here will hear the rhetoric I "have in the ol’ back pocket" no matter how loudly I shout it - but they will sure hear the rhetoric they use to defend this ideology, and it will probably be the first time they hear themselves thinking it out loud, too. Let's face it - liberals do not have a lot of practice thinking about liberalism at all. All I'm doing is giving them the opportunity to do so - they sure won't be getting that from the media and political establishment racketeers gaslighting them into not thinking about it.
You're trying to dismantle the echo chamber by amplifying voices inside to the point that they think what they're saying no longer or has never made sense, and by extension alienate folks outside looking in.
It sounds like an interesting strategy, and might be fun if that's what your about, but I doubt it's very effective. I think the risk of it backfiring is probably too high to see a very good return on your effort, especially without any way to verify positive outcomes. Maybe you're different, but I could also see the toxicity of the cynicism required to maintain the strategy decompartmentalizing and seeping into other parts of my life, potentially causing me to alienate my friends and family as well as affecting my mental health.
I any case, I got respect for anyone willing to stick to their guns for what they think is right, especially if it's for positive social change. I just hope you've weighed the consequences of your method.
I've been doing this since 2016 - the only thing the alternative strategy is effective at is to ensure it's users suffer endless burnout.
As you can see... I'm still very much at it.
Backfire to what? Simply flowing along the "liberal-to-fascist" pipeline like they were doing anyway?
I expect no "return" here - this is not a business. I don't treat people like "political assets" that has to be gaslit into doing what this or that faction of the political establishment wants at all costs - here on lemmy.world, I leave that shit to the "vote blue no matter who" brigade.
Not really... my irritation with people who think they can "vote" fascism away is short-lived and skin-deep - it's very hard to stay angry at people when you know exactly how the politics that have been drilled into their heads got there in the first place. You might just as well stay angry at people for catching the cold.
The group of people privileged enough to be able to convince themselves that politics is simply a spectator sport they can opt out of whenever something better is showing on the other channel is shrinking by the day - the friends and family I've lost to the far-right had very little to do with my behavior, I'm afraid. It's almost like liberal politics primes people to either lurch towards the right or merely acquiesce to it after a smidgen of ineffective protest - and I have a hunch that's no coincidence.
Alright. Good luck.