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Is anybody else a bit disappointed about the recent days with Fedora Atomic? (slrpnk.net)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love Fedora Atomic (Silverblue, Bazzite, Kinoite, Aurora, IOT, etc.), more than any other distro I used, and I plant to continue using it.

It never made any problems on any of my devices, and because it is pretty much indestructible and self-managing, I even planned to install it on my Mum's new laptop, in case her current one (basically a toaster with Mint on it) breaks.

But with the last days, my trust is damaged quite a bit.

First one, where I couldn't update anymore on uBlue, because of faulty key pairs. This is a huge thing for me because uBlue updates in the background, and if I wouldn't have read it here on Lemmy, I would have found out way too late, which is a security risk imo.

And now, my devices weren't able to boot anymore due to some secure boot stuff. Again, if I wouldn't have subscribed the Fedoramagazine, I would have noticed it way too late.
I was able to just boot into an older image and just paste a few commands from the magazine's post, and it was resolved in just seconds (download time not included).

Both instances were only a minor thing for ME.
But both would have been a headache if I wouldn't follow those blogs, which is a thing only nerds (like myself) do.
Nobody else cares about their OS, it is supposed to just work, hence why I use Atomic.

I don't wanna blame the devs (both j0rge/ uBlue and the Fedora team), they were very quick, transparent and offered very simple fixes.
And, being able to just boot into an older image, just in case, is something I am very thankful for, but nothing I want to depend on.

Having to be informed about stuff like this and then having to use the CLI is just a no-go for most people.

Am I over-reacting about this too much? What's your view on those things?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I agree, mistakes and vulnerabilites happen in all software commercial and open. Now I can only speak for RetroDECK but, we also make mistakes and need to do minor patches to fix those.

I think Jorge and the team handled it as you should: Be transparent, inform on all channels they can and learn from your mistakes.

Me personally have full confidence in them.

Those that try to hide or shift blame of mistakes are a bigger red flag in my book.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

What we need is a popup IN THE OS that tells users how to troubleshoot.

Separate from the OS core, updatable individually, like an RSS feed with persistent popups using KDialog etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Those that try to hide or shift blame of mistakes are a bigger red flag in my book.

People, please; look at this.

It's inevitable that mistakes will happen.