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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If things keep going like this I guess I'll abandon Youtube completely. How brighter my life will be

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's where things are heading. I wonder what video services will replace it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wont be, the scale of service and ease of revenue sharing will keep it as the king of video distribution untill Google kills it (like they do to all their products). FOSS projects and self hosting can not accomodate a viral hit (the slashdot effect), and also a self-hosted project like that would have to find a way to make money for the host to keep the lights on, and even Youtube fails at that one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

scale

Who does scale really benefit, though? I don't see how it matters from the audiences' point of view. Say I watch Youtube for fishing videos - all the competitor needs to do to attract and keep me is offer fishing videos. I don't really care that I can't watch music videos on it, or cookery, or make-up tutorials, etc.

The preoccupation we have with scale should be re-examined when it comes to video distribution. A combination of user-friendly banner advertising, modern codecs, and P2P hosting should go an awful long way. If I knew ad placements provided material funding for a video site/community I loved, I'd whitelist the URL.

Video needs fragmentation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think scale matters because almost no person is as much of an island as your example fishing video guy. I actually have noticed almost the opposite in most people I know, YouTube is the default place to get entertainment. Across all their interests.

From both sides the network effect might be strongest with YouTube, the creators can't leave because YouTube has virtually all of the audience, and consumers don't want to watch singular people on other platforms because on YouTube you can stumble over interesting videos and all the people you like to watch are already there.

The only way I see for other platforms to actually grow is forced interoperability, as in videos of other platforms appearing in the YouTube frontend. Which Google would never do so the government would need to force them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yep, my entertainment is 90% YouTube and the rest some show. On YouTube I find everything: from a dude that does reviews of air filter for cars to somebody explaining some obscure Japanese woodworking techniques to the omniscient Indian dude that explains complex programming concepts. If there was fragmentation I wouldn't be even able to find stuff, like in the early days of the internet that you knew the website existes because somebody shared the URLs in some usenet or some forums, before search engines became a thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

The benefit of scale is it attracts the creators. The people making the content we want to watch aren’t all doing it as a hobby, so the chance of attracting a large audience needs to be there. Otherwise they won’t come and the site is populated with really random, low-choice stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

All you need is a federated link aggregator like lemmy/mastodon with a UI made for videos.

You post a link to whichever video hosting service and attach a bunch of metadata (thumbnail, description, tags) and the comment section is built in already for each post. Nobody cares where a video is hosted, as long as they can follow creators and topics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Twitter and TikTok

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could just make a system to automate the ads like muting(or white noise) them and automatically clicking skip, is not as good but still feels like a small win

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Skipping ads violates YouTube’s terms of service!

  • Video playback will be blocked until you allow us to shove ads down your throat.

  • You can also opt for YouTube premium, where we’ll allow you to skip the last 5 seconds of any ad! (*)

(*) ads shorter than 5 minutes do not support skipping the final 5 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

The funniest part is they want to watch an ad (trailer) but they aren’t allowed to watch that ad without watching other ads first! Xzibit would be so proud.