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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

That... That right there made me hate the entire trilogy.. So we're slowly overwhelmed, we're slowly losing and being killed and the situation is so dire and... Oh there is the immortal deux ex machina guys just trampling over the enemy killing them all in a minute aaaaand we're done!

It was so anti climactic

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Agreed, I had the same thoughts with Oppenheimer. They just invent a big scary bomb and that ends the war? What an anti-climatic ending.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kinda like the war. Island hoping through the Pacific theater for ages, then they just drop two extre spicy bombs and the whole deal is done

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be more like, they invented the atomic bomb, use it to take Iwo Jima and then the United States goes back to sulking and wondering how the hell they're going to take the home islands.

In lotr they use the undead to win the battle of pellenor fields but they don't use it to win the war. It's a legitimate plot hole.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair the entire army itself was just a distraction so that frodo could destroy the ring. The ghosts weren't what caused them to win, they just prevented the death of the bait.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right but, why bother with smoke and mirrors when you have an immortal unbeatable army in the first place.

Even in the book its not really explained why the oathbreakers only help out for one fight; the only difference is in the books they never actually go to Minas Tirith they just help against the corsairs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Presumably Sauron could've destroyed the ghosts, he was just a little distracted at that time frame, or not yet able or willing to face them directly. Like the Eagles, they can't really tackle the Sauron problem, so aren't as much of a solve as they appear.

Also the reason they only fight in the final battle I think is because that is the only battle they're bound to fight in, I'm not even sure you could use them to fight any other battle than against Sauron's armies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm probably remembering wrong I haven't watched these movies in a while, but weren't the ghosts really hostile to everyone? I had the impression that other than superstition the ghosts really would kill anyone that approached them so nobody thought to. Aragorn was only able to make a deal with them because of some ancient family curse stuff he could free them from... which does sound machina-y, but it might explain why nobody tried to approach them up until that point

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Basically, yes.

In the books it was just that they would only answer to Isldur’s Heir. They also scared the Corsairs of Umbar away from their ships, but it was an army of Dunadain (along with a few elves, like Elrond’s sons) that actually ran them off permanently, so they could use the ships to bring some of the Gondorians in the south back north to join the main battle.