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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They're using them in Ukraine. Can't geofence the country and still allow the Ukrainians to use them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They could geogence crimea. But Elon refuses to because he wants the fascist to win.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Crimea is geofenced. That's why Ukraine officials contacted Elon and asked him to enable it so that their drone boats could attack Russian navy there which Elon refused to do. It's literally illegal due to US sanctions to Russia. This is what the author Walter Isaacson wrote about in his book but for some reason spun it around claiming Elon disabled it to prevent the attack when in fact it wasn't enabled in the first place. He has later issued a correction stating that what he originally said was incorrect but this is conveniently ignored by pretty much everyone and when ever I point it out I get downvoted.

To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

And before someone comments on the "major war" point, those are Walter's words, not Musk's. Elon said that agreeing to do so would "make SpaceX explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation" but also later added that had he been contacted by the White House and asked to enable it he would have but they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The Russians are not contained to Crimea, did you forget about the war going on?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

You don't need to draw the fence along a national border, but yeah, I guess the front is a bit flexible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So if they can isolate the russian starlink terminals... and they have gps.. sounds like targeting coordinates for ukrainians to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. They may have identified all the serial numbers of terminals legitimately used by Ukraine then simply blocked all terminals not on that list.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I bet its really challenging to do inventory after distribution if your records were junk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

if your records were junk.

Ohh wow... All those export controls and records are still shite?!

No way to tell how that would happen!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

They're not registered as Russian, many were stolen. If you just start handing out their coordinates the chances that some are civilian are too high.