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Applicants for German citizenship will be required to explicitly affirm Israel's right to exist under a new citizenship law which came into effect on Tuesday.

The new law shortened the number of years that a person must have lived in Germany in order to obtain a passport, from eight to five years. It will also allow first-generation migrants to be dual citizens.

As part of the shake-up, new questions were added to the country's citizenship test, including about Judaism and Israel's right to exist.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is not even closely the same by any definition.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

by any definition

The IHRA's definition does, so you can't say "any".

That said, the IHRA definition was pretty specifically created to be zionist and a shield for Israel, and should be rejected on those grounds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

How about β€œany sane or rational” definition?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Fine, you are of course technically correct πŸ™„

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The definition used by German authorities subsumes ~~antizionism, i.e.~~ denying Israel's right to exist as a special form of antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is quite reductive to say anti-zionism is just denying the right of Israel to exist. Yes, the state of Israel is a deeply zionist project but you can accept the reality of this state existing and still be opposed to the idea of zionism in general.

I am opposed to the idea of colonialism in general but still accept the existence of states with a colonial history.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's a good point. I've always thought antizionism and denying Israel's right to exist where somehow identical.