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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Excluding all the car-on-pedestrian deaths would be like excluding all the gunman-on-unarmed deaths, lol.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gun violence archive is not a legit source. It's completely bullshit from an anti-2a group. It's been called out multiple times by even left leaning sources like NPR and motherjones its so bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It’s been called out multiple times by even left leaning sources like NPR and motherjones its so bad.

Ok, here's Motherjones guide to mass shootings

Weapons: Of the 143 guns possessed by the killers, more than three quarters were obtained legally. They included dozens of assault weapons and semi-automatic handguns with high-capacity magazines. (See charts below.) Just as a perpetrator used a .40-caliber Glock to slaughter students in Red Lake, Minnesota, in 2005, so too did the one in Aurora, along with an AR-15 assault rifle, when blasting away at his victims in a darkened movie theater. In Newtown, Connecticut, the attacker wielded a .223 Bushmaster semi-automatic assault rifle as he massacred 20 school children and six adults.

Or here's Pew Research:

About eight-in-ten U.S. murders in 2021 – 20,958 out of 26,031, or 81% – involved a firearm.

The overall increase in U.S. gun deaths since the beginning of the pandemic includes an especially stark rise in such fatalities among children and teens under the age of 18. Gun deaths among children and teens rose 50% in just two years, from 1,732 in 2019 to 2,590 in 2021.

The rate of children dying to firearms in the US is 6.01 per 100,000

The rate of children dying to firearms in Canada is 0.21 per 100,000

In 2023, 754 people died in mass shootings in the USA.

In Canada, there have been 171 deaths to mass shootings for all of the 21st century so far.

We would have had to lose 83 people per year to shootings to keep up with you for 2023. We lost 11.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok, here's Motherjones guide to mass shootings

Weapons: Of the 143 guns possessed by the killers, more than three quarters were obtained legally. They included dozens of assault weapons and semi-automatic handguns with high-capacity magazines. (See charts below.) Just as a perpetrator used a .40-caliber Glock to slaughter students in Red Lake, Minnesota, in 2005, so too did the one in Aurora, along with an AR-15 assault rifle, when blasting away at his victims in a darkened movie theater. In Newtown, Connecticut, the attacker wielded a .223 Bushmaster semi-automatic assault rifle as he massacred 20 school children and six adults.

Yea nothing here proves that the GVA isn't bullshit..

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year/

That's two left leaning anti-2a publishers who even call out the GVA. It's not a reputable source.

Or here's Pew Research: About eight-in-ten U.S. murders in 2021 – 20,958 out of 26,031, or 81% – involved a firearm.

The overall increase in U.S. gun deaths since the beginning of the pandemic includes an especially stark rise in such fatalities among children and teens under the age of 18. Gun deaths among children and teens rose 50% in just two years, from 1,732 in 2019 to 2,590 in 2021.

Yes the pandemic years where an outlier and has drastically dropped back to pre-pandemic levels and now furthering the trend of continued decrease in overall violence/crime. This stilll....once again, has nothing to do with the GVA being a shit source...

The rate of children dying to firearms in the US is 6.01 per 100,000

Yea during the pandemic... it's not anymore as I said, and further still not on topic.

The rate of children dying to firearms in Canada is 0.21 per 100,000

Same as above....

In 2023, 754 people died in mass shootings in the USA.

No they did not, the term mass shooting in the eyes of the public is like uvalde or LA...not gang violence or drug violence. People see mass shootings as random acts that target indiscriminately...this also once again bullshit.

In Canada, there have been 171 deaths to mass shootings for all of the 21st century so far. We would have had to lose 83 people per year to shootings to keep up with you for 2023. We lost 11.

O you're Canadian....why am I arguing this with you... you're not in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They're right though. All you have is "anti 2a" and "mass shooting doesn't mean what you think it means"

so you fold by arguing bullshit. Hey bright lights - guess what - easy gun availability in the US has an impact on canada!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't, through this entire thread I've got plenty of sources to back up what I'm saying. It's not my fault you don't wish to actually read them.

And https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/iefw-iefa-eng.html#_a3

That article acts like it's illegal to import firearms from the USA... it's not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's not law abiding citizens importing guns that's the problem, it's all the criminals shipping them across the border.

Same with mexico.

But you're a gun nut, you don't fucking care, be honest.

Someone could shoot your mom in the face and you'd still say it wasn't guns fault.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I don't fucking care. I'm not going to push for legislation that's built upon emotional lies. Which is what you anti-gun people feed each other daily.