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Only The Best Groomers (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You think that the statement "what LGBTQ+ says about x" is a comment that is possible to make sense?

"LGBTQ+" is not an organization. It's not a religion or a creed. It doesn't "say" anything - and, in fact, isn't even an "it" in the context you're using!

It's a term for a group of people that have nothing to do with each other, other than some shared traits. In your comment, replace "LGBTQ+" with another word for a group of unrelated humans. "Blondes," maybe, or "women," "men," "dark skinned folk," "humans," etc. You can't put something like "Americans" or "Christians" in that sentence, because those are too specific.

Can you see the problem now?

Is it fair to post a video of some random dude saying something stupid, and then say, "I have proof that men believe X"?

No, because "men" don't share a creed.

LGBTQ folk also don't share a creed. We're just people.

And I absolutely believe you'd hear some folks joking around about "coming for their children." A friend of mine jokes about the gay agenda all the time. Her gay agenda is "going to the grocery store to get milk." But someone could get a clip of her saying that she's got a gay agenda, easily.

And thing is, even if that video happened to be about some folks who weren't joking - it doesn't mean anything! Just because someone found some random assholes at pride doesn't mean that everyone who's LGBTQ+ has an agenda.

I'm probably wasting my time, I know, but I figured I'd put it out there just in case you are honestly misunderstanding the situation. Here's hoping.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

I'm probably wasting my time

I'm going to go ahead and say yeah. I don't think there's any getting through to that dunce

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

And remember, it only takes one passing "gay agenda" joke to paint every noncis/nothet person on the planet as a p@do, but somebody CAN'T be a Nazi unless they handwrite mein kampf in triplicate with an addendum about how handsome Hitler is then get it notarized in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And I absolutely believe you’d hear some folks joking around about “coming for their children.”

I strongly suspect if he ever responded with a source it would involve a carefully trimmed clip from that SF gay men's chorus piece that caused a stir a while back, found a link for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA

An entire piece built around the lines "we'll convert your children" and "we're coming for your children" that's pretty prone to having unfortunate clips cut from it to scare right wingers.

“LGBTQ+” is not an organization. It’s not a religion or a creed. It doesn’t “say” anything - and, in fact, isn’t even an “it” in the context you’re using!

It’s a term for a group of people that have nothing to do with each other, other than some shared traits. In your comment, replace “LGBTQ+” with another word for a group of unrelated humans. “Blondes,” maybe, or “women,” “men,” “dark skinned folk,” “humans,” etc. You can’t put something like “Americans” or “Christians” in that sentence, because those are too specific.

Can you see the problem now?

Except in that case you can't exclude anyone from "the LGBTQ+ community" provided they are not straight or not cis. See people talking about Milo Yian-etc back in 2014-2020, or people's reaction to radqueer shit.